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> $100k in SF = $70k in London = £55k in London - is that what you're saying? Yes. You're right that European developers (even at the big 4) make far less. My

> $100k in SF = $70k in London = £55k in London - is that what you're saying? Yes. You're right that European developers (even at the big 4) make far less. My comparison was more with SF/NYC salaries, where big 4 developers will easily break $200k and reach $250k without excessive effort.

user5994461 10y ago
Well, in Europe, the best is London, and the best in London is either consulting (easy and awesomely low taxes) or finance (hard). In the USA, obviously SF against NYC, you need to get information from Americans. I can't help you. In case anyone wonders: inter-continental comparison are worthless so don't bother. It's [almost] impossible for Europeans to get VISA to work in the USA, and even if they get one they won't have the leverage to get the top range salaries.
- morgante 10y ago
  > In the USA, obviously SF against NYC, you need to get information from Americans. I can't help you. Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I'm based here and making those comparisons myself. Specifically, NYC has both finance and tech. For developers (not quants), big tech pays better.
  - user5994461 10y ago
    Can you throw out some numbers?
    - morgante 10y ago
      I already did. $200k is very achievable for senior developers in big tech, with potentially another $50-100k in RSUs on top. Finance you're typically looking at $180k total comp.
      - user5994461 10y ago
        LOL. I'm sorry, there might be a disconnect between us. You're not in the right order of magnitude ^^ It's easy to get $200k for ANYONE in the NYC/SF. Please re-read the first message from ceras that started this conversation: "How does high performer compensation compare to high performer compensation at tech companies (who start at, say, $400K-$500k for what I'll call "entry-level high performer")?"
        morgante 10y ago
        You can't simultaneously claim to know nothing about US tech salaries and then claim it's "easy for ANYONE to get $200k in NYC/SF." $200k is absolutely achievable, but claiming that ANYONE (and EVERYONE?) is getting it is farcical. The vast majority of developers are making less than that. The notion that entry-level developers are getting $400k-500k is a joke. Not even quants start at that. ---- Since you'd apparently like to be an asshole about markets you know nothing about, I'm done with this conversation.
        user5994461 10y ago
        The keyword is "high performer". $200k is a classic "senior" package. It's good but it's nothing outstanding. No offense intended but finance comp doesn't stop at $180k, you're not looking at the right place or you don't have the profile.

user5994461 10y ago

Well, in Europe, the best is London, and the best in London is either consulting (easy and awesomely low taxes) or finance (hard). In the USA, obviously SF against NYC, you need to get information from Americans. I can't help you. In case anyone wonders: inter-continental comparison are worthless so don't bother. It's [almost] impossible for Europeans to get VISA to work in the USA, and even if they get one they won't have the leverage to get the top range salaries.

morgante 10y ago
> In the USA, obviously SF against NYC, you need to get information from Americans. I can't help you. Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I'm based here and making those comparisons myself. Specifically, NYC has both finance and tech. For developers (not quants), big tech pays better.
- user5994461 10y ago
  Can you throw out some numbers?
  - morgante 10y ago
    I already did. $200k is very achievable for senior developers in big tech, with potentially another $50-100k in RSUs on top. Finance you're typically looking at $180k total comp.
    - user5994461 10y ago
      LOL. I'm sorry, there might be a disconnect between us. You're not in the right order of magnitude ^^ It's easy to get $200k for ANYONE in the NYC/SF. Please re-read the first message from ceras that started this conversation: "How does high performer compensation compare to high performer compensation at tech companies (who start at, say, $400K-$500k for what I'll call "entry-level high performer")?"
      - morgante 10y ago
        You can't simultaneously claim to know nothing about US tech salaries and then claim it's "easy for ANYONE to get $200k in NYC/SF." $200k is absolutely achievable, but claiming that ANYONE (and EVERYONE?) is getting it is farcical. The vast majority of developers are making less than that. The notion that entry-level developers are getting $400k-500k is a joke. Not even quants start at that. ---- Since you'd apparently like to be an asshole about markets you know nothing about, I'm done with this conversation.
        user5994461 10y ago
        The keyword is "high performer". $200k is a classic "senior" package. It's good but it's nothing outstanding. No offense intended but finance comp doesn't stop at $180k, you're not looking at the right place or you don't have the profile.