I'm not. I'm talking about the same people you are, I think? I'd really like some explanation of who precisely we're supposedly letting down, as this level of a

I'm not. I'm talking about the same people you are, I think? I'd really like some explanation of who precisely we're supposedly letting down, as this level of abstraction is getting to a level where either of us could say anything without evidence. EDIT: There's a handful of poor cis white hetero men in my specific feminist/SJ group. Their thing is mostly being pro-unionisation in a way that falls in nicely with the more socialist tendencies of modern feminism, or they're unemployable due to mental or physical disability and struggling with the abysmal benefits system and have come to disbelieve that society as it stands is ever going to fix that, or in one case he's blind, and we support them in their efforts and fold them into our own as best as we can. I can't vouch for the makeup of other groups.