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Interesting - I tend to see people in power believed far less than people without in the communities I'm in. I bet you're talking about people on screens and i

Interesting - I tend to see people in power believed far less than people without in the communities I'm in. I bet you're talking about people on screens and in media, when you say "people in power." (Perhaps administrators in school, or people in charge of organizations?) I'm talking about the more powerful people in your community that you actually talk to and interact with regularly. Basically the people who are actually relevant in the context of your ape dominance hierarchy ladder. Talking crap about distant figureheads of power doesn't count. EDIT: For example, when was the last time a poor white cis-hetero man tried to join in your group as a feminist, and how did it go for him?

vertex-four 10y ago
I'm not. I'm talking about the same people you are, I think? I'd really like some explanation of who precisely we're supposedly letting down, as this level of abstraction is getting to a level where either of us could say anything without evidence. EDIT: There's a handful of poor cis white hetero men in my specific feminist/SJ group. Their thing is mostly being pro-unionisation in a way that falls in nicely with the more socialist tendencies of modern feminism, or they're unemployable due to mental or physical disability and struggling with the abysmal benefits system and have come to disbelieve that society as it stands is ever going to fix that, or in one case he's blind, and we support them in their efforts and fold them into our own as best as we can. I can't vouch for the makeup of other groups.