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For anyone on Windows willing to switch to OpenJDK, there are builds from - Azul: http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ - Re

For anyone on Windows willing to switch to OpenJDK, there are builds from - Azul: http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ http://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/ - RedHat: https://developers.redhat.com/products/openjdk/overview/ https://developers.redhat.com/products/openjdk/overview/ - JetBrains: https://bintray.com/jetbrains/intellij-jdk https://bintray.com/jetbrains/intellij-jdk

pjmlp 10y ago
Apparently people keep forgetting who pays the majority of OpenJDK developers.
- wolfgke 10y ago
  If the OpenJDK developers would provide official builds of it, I could accept the argument.
  - pjmlp 10y ago
    So what do you think it would happen if Oracle just made OpenJDK offline, withdraw its developers or even nastier changes to OpenJDK (left to imagination)? Which of those listed companies would try to keep OpenJDK alive and drive the JEPs?
    - wolfgke 10y ago
      > Which of those listed companies would try to keep OpenJDK alive and drive the JEPs? The question should rather be: Which of those listed companies will Oracle sue for doing so?
    - nitrogen 10y ago
      There are many examples of projects maintained by a cooperative effort between multiple corporations.
      - pjmlp 10y ago
        Yet none of those companies cared enough for Java to save Sun, why would they do it then?
        wolfgke 10y ago
        You can care as much as you want: If you don't have the money to save them, you will be of no use.
        pjmlp 10y ago
        Which means most likely they will just look elsewhere. RedHat is now supporting .NET, IBM made J9 modular for other languages like PHP, Ruby and Python, additionally improving Swift on GNU/Linux.
- adictator 10y ago
  And who is that? IBM?
  - pjmlp 10y ago
    Oracle of course, so they can do whatever they feel like to OpenJDK. I actually doubt, that given the interest other companies have shown regarding saving Sun assets, anyone would bother to pick up OpenJDK afterwards.
- hocuspocus 10y ago
  Or people simply want to avoid installing the proprietary software that is bundled with Oracle JDK. With the added benefit of running the same JDK on your dev machine and on your servers.
  - pjmlp 10y ago
    Which leads to the interesting situation that not all Java GUI applications run properly in GNU/Linux with OpenJDK, forcing companies like JetBrains to bundle their own fork for those not willing to install Oracle JVM or another third party vendor. Because actually OpenJDK isn't 100% 1:1 to the closed source versions.
    - hocuspocus 10y ago
      Font rendering is ugly on linux with both Oracle JDK and unpatched OpenJDK, or at least that was the case last time I tried to solve this issue manually.
rbanffy 10y ago
It's a shame Azul doesn't make their custom silicon anymore...

pjmlp 10y ago

Apparently people keep forgetting who pays the majority of OpenJDK developers.

wolfgke 10y ago
If the OpenJDK developers would provide official builds of it, I could accept the argument.
- pjmlp 10y ago
  So what do you think it would happen if Oracle just made OpenJDK offline, withdraw its developers or even nastier changes to OpenJDK (left to imagination)? Which of those listed companies would try to keep OpenJDK alive and drive the JEPs?
  - wolfgke 10y ago
    > Which of those listed companies would try to keep OpenJDK alive and drive the JEPs? The question should rather be: Which of those listed companies will Oracle sue for doing so?
  - nitrogen 10y ago
    There are many examples of projects maintained by a cooperative effort between multiple corporations.
    - pjmlp 10y ago
      Yet none of those companies cared enough for Java to save Sun, why would they do it then?
      - wolfgke 10y ago
        You can care as much as you want: If you don't have the money to save them, you will be of no use.
        pjmlp 10y ago
        Which means most likely they will just look elsewhere. RedHat is now supporting .NET, IBM made J9 modular for other languages like PHP, Ruby and Python, additionally improving Swift on GNU/Linux.
adictator 10y ago
And who is that? IBM?
- pjmlp 10y ago
  Oracle of course, so they can do whatever they feel like to OpenJDK. I actually doubt, that given the interest other companies have shown regarding saving Sun assets, anyone would bother to pick up OpenJDK afterwards.
hocuspocus 10y ago
Or people simply want to avoid installing the proprietary software that is bundled with Oracle JDK. With the added benefit of running the same JDK on your dev machine and on your servers.
- pjmlp 10y ago
  Which leads to the interesting situation that not all Java GUI applications run properly in GNU/Linux with OpenJDK, forcing companies like JetBrains to bundle their own fork for those not willing to install Oracle JVM or another third party vendor. Because actually OpenJDK isn't 100% 1:1 to the closed source versions.
  - hocuspocus 10y ago
    Font rendering is ugly on linux with both Oracle JDK and unpatched OpenJDK, or at least that was the case last time I tried to solve this issue manually.

rbanffy 10y ago

It's a shame Azul doesn't make their custom silicon anymore...