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It fascinates me the extent to which he regrets not getting a Computer Science degree, and says it impacts how hireable he is. Obviously, data point of one here
by untog 10y ago
It fascinates me the extent to which he regrets not getting a Computer Science degree, and says it impacts how hireable he is. Obviously, data point of one here, but I don't have one and it hasn't come up once in my career.
You may not see web development and software engineering as different positions. Both involve programming and craftsmanship, but software engineering adds to it knowledge of data structures and algorithms, compiled languages, memory considerations, and understanding the impact of coding and architecture decisions on the machines where they reside.
I think that's a simplistic view of what "web developer" is these days. I work in the web for most of the time and I absolutely have to do deal with memory considerations as well as code and architecture choices. And if you're a full-stack developer you're likely dealing with some kind of compiled language on the backend.
In brief, Google is a company that hires smart, creative people, and treats them well. Google rewards merit, encourages big ideas, and gives employees the freedom to make good decisions for the user.
I very much question that, in 2016.
- Tannic 10y agoGoogle is a multinational corporation just as interested in exploiting everything as any other conglomerate. Form determines function at that scale.
- duderific 10y ago> It fascinates me the extent to which he regrets not getting a Computer Science degree, and says it impacts how hireable he is. Obviously, data point of one here, but I don't have one and it hasn't come up once in my career. Same here, except for when I interviewed at Google. :) I was interviewing for a frontend position, and I got through the interviews ok and was passed along to a few departments. Payments was interested in hiring me, so I got passed back to the "hiring committee" who has the final say. I started receiving emails from the Google recruiter (who was the go-between between me and the hiring committee) with specific questions about my degree (Anthropology from Berkeley), the timeframe I attended and what my GPA was. In the end, they decided not to hire me, even though the Payments team had expressed interest in hiring me, even saying "we'd love to have you on board." I can only conclude that it was specifically because of my education (or lack thereof).
- majormajor 10y agoGoogle HR seems generally terrible at keeping things straight since they're such a massive company. I had a recruiter call me up "hey just wanted to follow up, I see you interviewed with us 6 months ago and did great, wanted to know more about why you aren't working here and if you might be more interested now" and had to tell him "well, I didn't ever get an offer, so that would have something to do with it..."
- Apocryphon 10y agoIs native development really that much more complex and deeper than web (application) development these days, more worthy of being considered as software engineering? Because with the modern languages and frameworks at a dev's disposal these days, both seem pretty comparable.