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This is just rude. Reading these threads a lot of people have made very specific, good arguments as to why this feature was useful to them _for years_. No mat

This is just rude. Reading these threads a lot of people have made very specific, good arguments as to why this feature was useful to them _for years_. No matter what you think of that feature, you can't just condescend people because you are not accepting reasonable and logical arguments. I too found this feature useful for _years_. Please be respectful of other peoples' opinions. Surely you can tell a lot of people use this feature for _a_ reason.

coldtea 10y ago
>This is just rude. It's also true. "It was useful to me" doesn't settle the matter of whether it was actually useful or not. >No matter what you think of that feature, you can't just condescend people because you are not accepting reasonable and logical arguments. "It was useful for me" is not a logical argument. A logical argument would start by checking whether the time estimate matched the remaining time under different usage scenarios.
- mikeash 10y ago
  I already covered that: "But my computer is a different story. I usually do the same thing with it for hours at a time. Under those conditions, the estimate was both accurate and useful." Can we now move past the part where we assume I'm an idiot, and get on with the conversation?
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >I usually do the same thing with it for hours at a time. Under those conditions, the estimate was both accurate and useful. Why, in the world, would this matter, in a world where people do all kinds of different things with their computers? In what world does it makes sense to keep a display only for people who "usually do the same thing with it for hours at a time"?
    - mikeash 10y ago
      Work is usually consistent. If you're working in Xcode or Mail or Excel for long periods, the number will be accurate. I guess Apple thinks nobody uses their computers for work anymore? And you think that's reasonable?

coldtea 10y ago

>This is just rude. It's also true. "It was useful to me" doesn't settle the matter of whether it was actually useful or not. >No matter what you think of that feature, you can't just condescend people because you are not accepting reasonable and logical arguments. "It was useful for me" is not a logical argument. A logical argument would start by checking whether the time estimate matched the remaining time under different usage scenarios.

mikeash 10y ago
I already covered that: "But my computer is a different story. I usually do the same thing with it for hours at a time. Under those conditions, the estimate was both accurate and useful." Can we now move past the part where we assume I'm an idiot, and get on with the conversation?
- coldtea 10y ago
  >I usually do the same thing with it for hours at a time. Under those conditions, the estimate was both accurate and useful. Why, in the world, would this matter, in a world where people do all kinds of different things with their computers? In what world does it makes sense to keep a display only for people who "usually do the same thing with it for hours at a time"?
  - mikeash 10y ago
    Work is usually consistent. If you're working in Xcode or Mail or Excel for long periods, the number will be accurate. I guess Apple thinks nobody uses their computers for work anymore? And you think that's reasonable?