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I know we have several HN users who work at facebook. Do they: 1. Not care? 2. Not see this happening? 3. Not see anything wrong? 4. Can't do anything? 5.

by apu 16y ago

I know we have several HN users who work at facebook. Do they: 1. Not care? 2. Not see this happening? 3. Not see anything wrong? 4. Can't do anything? 5. Know the "truth," which is substantially different than that being reported? It seems like one of these ought to be true, and at least in the case of (1-3) should be able to report as much to us.

krschultz 16y ago
If I was considering hiring an employee with Facebook on their resume, I'd definitely ask their opinion on these matters. If they didn't see a problem with them they aren't working with me. If they did see a problem and didn't do anything about it, I'd weight that pretty heavily against them.
- archgoon 16y ago
  What if they said "That's why I'm here."?
jacquesm 16y ago
1) they probably do 2) they probably do 3) they probably do 4) that's probably it 5) or even worse! Likely their influence is limited and if they don't toe the company line they'll be 'between jobs' next week or so. Speaking out in public against company policy can get your ass canned in some companies pretty quickly. And some do speak up: http://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/164539,facebook-employee-reports-widespread-privacy-abuses.aspx http://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/164539,facebook-emplo...
hoggle 16y ago
If I were working at Facebook this would be the time I would quit. In these times of almost endless opportunities not being able to be working socially responsible while still creating value plus being my own woman/man seems somehow anachronistic to me.
- pyre 16y ago
  > In these times of almost endless opportunities I think that you forgot to suffix that with "for developers in Silicon Valley." With the high unemployment rates, I presume there are a lot of people that don't have the luxury of tossing a job due to moral/ethical dilemmas.
  - derwiki 16y ago
    Turns out the people in question _are_ developers in Silicon Valley, and I'm pretty confident a Facebook engineer could get another job in the valley if he/she wanted.
- stanleydrew 16y ago
  A lot of facebookers have a lot of vesting to do though...
ambition 16y ago
I'm going to work at Facebook soon, and I'm paying very close attention to what's going on. I'm looking forward to seeing the other side of the story as it were.
kmavm 16y ago
Of course we're here. However, this is an active legal issue, and commenting publicly on it can only hurt.
- apu 16y ago
  Fair enough. But I implore all of you at facebook to make your feelings known to your higher-ups (if you feel, like many of the rest of us on HN, that something bad's happening). These kind of decisions generally only go in one direction, and only early-on can they be stopped.

by apu 16y ago

krschultz 16y ago

If I was considering hiring an employee with Facebook on their resume, I'd definitely ask their opinion on these matters. If they didn't see a problem with them they aren't working with me. If they did see a problem and didn't do anything about it, I'd weight that pretty heavily against them.

archgoon 16y ago
What if they said "That's why I'm here."?

jacquesm 16y ago

1) they probably do 2) they probably do 3) they probably do 4) that's probably it 5) or even worse! Likely their influence is limited and if they don't toe the company line they'll be 'between jobs' next week or so. Speaking out in public against company policy can get your ass canned in some companies pretty quickly. And some do speak up: http://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/164539,facebook-employee-reports-widespread-privacy-abuses.aspx http://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/164539,facebook-emplo...

hoggle 16y ago

If I were working at Facebook this would be the time I would quit. In these times of almost endless opportunities not being able to be working socially responsible while still creating value plus being my own woman/man seems somehow anachronistic to me.

pyre 16y ago
> In these times of almost endless opportunities I think that you forgot to suffix that with "for developers in Silicon Valley." With the high unemployment rates, I presume there are a lot of people that don't have the luxury of tossing a job due to moral/ethical dilemmas.
- derwiki 16y ago
  Turns out the people in question _are_ developers in Silicon Valley, and I'm pretty confident a Facebook engineer could get another job in the valley if he/she wanted.
stanleydrew 16y ago
A lot of facebookers have a lot of vesting to do though...

ambition 16y ago

I'm going to work at Facebook soon, and I'm paying very close attention to what's going on. I'm looking forward to seeing the other side of the story as it were.

kmavm 16y ago

Of course we're here. However, this is an active legal issue, and commenting publicly on it can only hurt.

apu 16y ago
Fair enough. But I implore all of you at facebook to make your feelings known to your higher-ups (if you feel, like many of the rest of us on HN, that something bad's happening). These kind of decisions generally only go in one direction, and only early-on can they be stopped.