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They've gotten rid off the office per developer thing now. So not surprised. A large part is probably demographics of developers is now changing.
by UK-AL 10y ago
They've gotten rid off the office per developer thing now. So not surprised.
A large part is probably demographics of developers is now changing.
- dpark 10y agoIt's not entirely gone but it's dying. I'm still in a private office. Lots of devs on my team are doubled up, though. Many teams have already moved to open spaces. Demographics are a factor. Lots of devs, especially younger devs, and especially devs who've worked at other younger companies are asking for open floor plans. Not all of them, but a sizable chunk. That plus reduced cost for providing office space to devs is pushing the company in the direction of open office spaces. I haven't seen a building get significantly renovated and not end up with open spaces.
- Camillo 10y agoThey are asking for open floor plans? Is there anything young people won't ruin?
- venomsnake 10y agoOpen floor plan is great way to have life-life balance and not do any meaningful work.
- morgante 10y agoI'm skeptical of the claim and suspect it might be (yet another) case of an older developer blaming young people for things. None of my friends (all in their 20s) prefer open offices.
- dpark 10y agoMeanwhile you've got widowlark (who graduated in the past couple of years based on some brief online stalking) acting shocked that anyone would want a private office. I'm also not sure how old you think I am. I'm 34, not 74.
- morgante 10y agoBe careful of all the stereotyping though. I'm 23, have heard of Extreme Programming, and absolutely want my own private office (and, failing that, a silent shared work space).
- dpark 10y agoSure. I don't think all younger programmers want open spaces just as I don't think all older programmers want private offices. I have interviewed quite a few younger devs, though, who asked about the office situation and expressed either no preference or a preference for open spaces. I feel like I've seen this less with older candidates. This is clearly anecdotal though.
- nojvek 10y agoI prefer open spaces. Mostly due to sunlight and the social interaction. It feels more collaborative. Although I should say our whole team works 1-2 days from home. Different people, different days and we're very okay with that. We also like to leave developers who have headphones alone and only talk to them over skype/slack.
- Shengbo 10y agoI promise not to ruin your Bingo nights.
- pm90 10y agoTry switching "young" to "old", and see how that sentence sounds.
- widowlark 10y agoDo you seriously feel like you need your own office? We live in the 21st century for god's sake. Rather than a private office, I want to work from home most of the time.
- eropple 10y agoThat we live in the 21st century is why I want my own office: because it's chaotic and hectic and a place to concentrate is important. As a consultant, that office does happen to be in my home. But I wouldn't return to a FT gig without having a place where I can go, separating from "home", to work in productive quiet.
- morgante 10y agoI don't need my own office, but I'd sure love to have one.
- clay_to_n 10y agoYes, they keep requesting open floor plans and talking about this book Extreme Programming which apparently advocates for it...
- mynameisvlad 10y agoThere's been plenty of renovations without removing private offices, but it's mainly paint and carpeting with redone common spaces (kitchen, copy/mail rooms and bathrooms). See 8/9/10/26/27/28 which all were done fairly recently. It doesn't make sense to gut the interior just to make a slightly different private office configuration, so it probably isn't considered a "significant" renovation.
- KirinDave 10y agoI think companies should try and support both modes of working. Open Plan offices are okay for some people but completely unacceptable for other people. Neruodiversity is a real thing that we should be thinking about.
- Locke1689 10y agoMy building is currently undergoing a renovation and we still have private offices. To support your point: a number of people have voluntarily taken over a former conference room to turn it into an open space office. Personally I have worked in both and don't find one better or worse than the other. I actually value sunlight, direct or indirect, more than the layout.
- caleblloyd 10y agoAmen to sunlight! Why is that such a hard thing for companies to understand?