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> did she try to talk to her harassers directly before going to a manager? Maybe I misread something but it seems like this did not happen, yet this should alwa
by cdubzzz 10y ago
> did she try to talk to her harassers directly before going to a manager? Maybe I misread something but it seems like this did not happen, yet this should always be the first step.
How do you support this statement? It doesn't strike me as a given and you don't really back it up at all.
- pmlnr 10y agohuman language 101: statement != question
- cdubzzz 10y agoTo clarify - your statement is, "this [talking to one's harassers] should always be the first step". It is an extremely broad statement and I am curious how you defend it.
- ambicapter 10y agoOne man's harassment is another man's ribbing. It is important to clearly define boundaries between two parties before one party decides a boundary has been crossed (n.b. I haven't read the article yet but stand behind my statement in the general case).
- pmlnr 10y agoI may not have used enough words, but you should not add yours either. Talking to someone should be the first step, not talking to their managers, parents, superiors, whatever. If the situation is that bad, call the police, but that is an assault. An example to back my "statement": https://www.gov.uk/how-to-resolve-neighbour-disputes/overview https://www.gov.uk/how-to-resolve-neighbour-disputes/overvie... => 1.1. It's also usually the logical thing adults do.
- ad-hominem 10y ago> It's also usually the logical thing adults do I am saddened that HN people completely miss this, and act like it's completely outside the bounds of normal behavior. Everyone in this story was an adult. She definitely should have spoken to them first.
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