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I tried Servo a few days ago, and it matches my experiences with the single-digit milestone releases of Mozilla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozill

by cesarb 10y ago

I tried Servo a few days ago, and it matches my experiences with the single-digit milestone releases of Mozilla (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application_Suite#Release_history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Application...): I could easily make it crash in just a few minutes. Back then, it didn't take long until Mozilla was stable and usable enough that I could use it as my main daily browser, and I expect the same to also happen with Servo. Of course, Firefox is far ahead in functionality, but Servo doesn't need all of Firefox's features to be successful.

Cyph0n 10y ago
Keep in mind that websites have gotten a lot more complex since then, so it's a different scenario entirely.
Manishearth 10y ago
> Servo doesn't need all of Firefox's features to be successful. The problem is that the modern web is complicated. You have a lot of features like svg which don't get used pervasively but are enough for it to impact experience. As for Servo crashing, we don't really prioritize crash fixes since it's not a product at the moment. But please do file bugs for it if you think it's not a known crash.
- cesarb 10y ago
  Already filed, https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/14575 https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/14575 (I was going to the Wikipedia article on "Animated GIF" because I wanted to see how well Servo worked with animated images, and I knew I'd find one there. Sadly, it panics every time.)
  - Manishearth 10y ago
    Doesn't seem like it's a bug with animated gifs, actually (though it could be). But you're right, we don't support animated gifs.
    - cesarb 10y ago
      It's worse: from the error message, it seems to be a bug with floats. From my experience editing Wikipedia, floats tend to be a pain. Do you know why the [edit] link on the sections is on the left? It used to be on the right, as a float, and its interaction with the right-aligned images (which are also floats) often caused problems. I've blanked out the several templates we had to use to try to make floats behave themselves. And there was also that Mozilla bug where IIRC some kind of rounding error caused 1-pixel misalignments with floats. Took a long time until that one was fixed.
      - Manishearth 10y ago
        Yeah, floats are in flux right now in Servo. I'm not sure if pcwalton's new stuff is completely finished. I'd suspect the edit issue is also a float bug or just a CSS property not being implemented.

by cesarb 10y ago

Cyph0n 10y ago

Keep in mind that websites have gotten a lot more complex since then, so it's a different scenario entirely.

Manishearth 10y ago

> Servo doesn't need all of Firefox's features to be successful. The problem is that the modern web is complicated. You have a lot of features like svg which don't get used pervasively but are enough for it to impact experience. As for Servo crashing, we don't really prioritize crash fixes since it's not a product at the moment. But please do file bugs for it if you think it's not a known crash.

cesarb 10y ago
Already filed, https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/14575 https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/14575 (I was going to the Wikipedia article on "Animated GIF" because I wanted to see how well Servo worked with animated images, and I knew I'd find one there. Sadly, it panics every time.)
- Manishearth 10y ago
  Doesn't seem like it's a bug with animated gifs, actually (though it could be). But you're right, we don't support animated gifs.
  - cesarb 10y ago
    It's worse: from the error message, it seems to be a bug with floats. From my experience editing Wikipedia, floats tend to be a pain. Do you know why the [edit] link on the sections is on the left? It used to be on the right, as a float, and its interaction with the right-aligned images (which are also floats) often caused problems. I've blanked out the several templates we had to use to try to make floats behave themselves. And there was also that Mozilla bug where IIRC some kind of rounding error caused 1-pixel misalignments with floats. Took a long time until that one was fixed.
    - Manishearth 10y ago
      Yeah, floats are in flux right now in Servo. I'm not sure if pcwalton's new stuff is completely finished. I'd suspect the edit issue is also a float bug or just a CSS property not being implemented.