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As long as this version of android stays as open as regular android I think I'll be happy. It is super sad that Mozilla decided to leave this space though (eve

As long as this version of android stays as open as regular android I think I'll be happy. It is super sad that Mozilla decided to leave this space though (even if trying to pivot FirefoxOS was nothing but trying to buy time). Wish there was a less insidious company trying to get into all my devices. Also, why "Weave" instead of just using Thread? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(network_protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(network_protocol) ) [EDIT] - It looks like Weave IS built on Thread, though it's a little sad that it took me so long to figure it out: https://www.silabs.com/products/wireless/Pages/nest-weave-thread.aspx https://www.silabs.com/products/wireless/Pages/nest-weave-th... My knowledge of the Thread Group's management/scheme layout was lacking, it looks like it's INTENDED that thread is meant to be below one layer of abstraction, managed by different vendors (sillicon labs, nxp, etc)

rohan1024 10y ago
How about Canonical https://www.ubuntu.com/internet-of-things https://www.ubuntu.com/internet-of-things
- hardwaresofton 10y ago
  Thanks so much, haven't kept up with Canonical since switching off of Ubuntu, didn't know there was another option like this [EDIT] After spending some time looking at Ubuntu Core... is it just a smaller Ubuntu distro + managed updates? I do like the "snap store" concept... marketing jargon aside, it seems like Canonical is paying attention to both developer and user ergonomics more than ever [EDIT2] Ubuntu core & snapcraft.io are pretty exciting
astebbin 10y ago
Thread provides a network, but no application-level semantics. In other words, Thread is to 802.15.4 as WiFi is to 802.11. Once you've set up a Thread network, you still need an application layer like CoAP or Weave to control your connected devices.
- hardwaresofton 10y ago
  Thanks -- I just realized this, looking at some of the thread groups white papers and some of the cooperating companies' sites. Updated original post
bfrancis 10y ago
With regards to Mozilla, see https://connected.mozilla.org/ https://connected.mozilla.org/ Mozilla is working on IoT products and an IoT platform based on the Web of Things.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  That seems like a catch all blog, that at least to me gave little clue as to what they were working on. On that note i seem to recall them working on a small web server and auto-discovery system that allowed any mobile device to share something. To me that seems like the perfect IoT starting point, as now you do not need an app for every damn device.
  - hardwaresofton 10y ago
    I believe this might be the project you're talking about: https://flyweb.github.io/ https://flyweb.github.io/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/09/flyweb-pure-web-cross-device-interaction/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/09/flyweb-pure-web-cross-devi... Unfortunately, I'm a little wary of trusting mozilla to support their groundbreaking/interesting-to-developer projects anymore (for better or for worse, many people applaud their renewed focus on Firefox)
alexandros 10y ago
> Wish there was a less insidious company trying to get into all my devices. Sounds like a call for a shameless plug! We have recently released resinOS[1] as a stand-alone OS after a few years of development and production deployments on resin.io[2] connected devices. [1]: https://resinos.io https://resinos.io [2]: https://resin.io https://resin.io
tyingq 10y ago
>As long as this version of android stays as open as regular android I think I'll be happy. I can't seem to find a license anywhere. It does seem to include access to some Google services that the open source android libraries do not: http://i.imgur.com/IEZYLwN.png http://i.imgur.com/IEZYLwN.png

rohan1024 10y ago

How about Canonical https://www.ubuntu.com/internet-of-things https://www.ubuntu.com/internet-of-things

hardwaresofton 10y ago
Thanks so much, haven't kept up with Canonical since switching off of Ubuntu, didn't know there was another option like this [EDIT] After spending some time looking at Ubuntu Core... is it just a smaller Ubuntu distro + managed updates? I do like the "snap store" concept... marketing jargon aside, it seems like Canonical is paying attention to both developer and user ergonomics more than ever [EDIT2] Ubuntu core & snapcraft.io are pretty exciting

astebbin 10y ago

Thread provides a network, but no application-level semantics. In other words, Thread is to 802.15.4 as WiFi is to 802.11. Once you've set up a Thread network, you still need an application layer like CoAP or Weave to control your connected devices.

hardwaresofton 10y ago
Thanks -- I just realized this, looking at some of the thread groups white papers and some of the cooperating companies' sites. Updated original post

bfrancis 10y ago

With regards to Mozilla, see https://connected.mozilla.org/ https://connected.mozilla.org/ Mozilla is working on IoT products and an IoT platform based on the Web of Things.

digi_owl 10y ago
That seems like a catch all blog, that at least to me gave little clue as to what they were working on. On that note i seem to recall them working on a small web server and auto-discovery system that allowed any mobile device to share something. To me that seems like the perfect IoT starting point, as now you do not need an app for every damn device.
- hardwaresofton 10y ago
  I believe this might be the project you're talking about: https://flyweb.github.io/ https://flyweb.github.io/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/09/flyweb-pure-web-cross-device-interaction/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/09/flyweb-pure-web-cross-devi... Unfortunately, I'm a little wary of trusting mozilla to support their groundbreaking/interesting-to-developer projects anymore (for better or for worse, many people applaud their renewed focus on Firefox)

alexandros 10y ago

> Wish there was a less insidious company trying to get into all my devices. Sounds like a call for a shameless plug! We have recently released resinOS[1] as a stand-alone OS after a few years of development and production deployments on resin.io[2] connected devices. [1]: https://resinos.io https://resinos.io [2]: https://resin.io https://resin.io

tyingq 10y ago

>As long as this version of android stays as open as regular android I think I'll be happy. I can't seem to find a license anywhere. It does seem to include access to some Google services that the open source android libraries do not: http://i.imgur.com/IEZYLwN.png http://i.imgur.com/IEZYLwN.png