I too learned BASIC first. It was fine for what it was. And computing has come a long, long way from there, and our pedagogy has evolved substantially. In fact,

I too learned BASIC first. It was fine for what it was. And computing has come a long, long way from there, and our pedagogy has evolved substantially. In fact, kids have no trouble with concepts like lists and trees — I see more trouble with it from people who learned programming poorly before than people who didn't learn to program before at all. Also, nobody said Pyret is for kids (defined as pre-teen). It's not.