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I just bought a brand-new 2015 model 15 inch, which Apple still sells. Best laptop I bought, couldn't be happier. It's a lot less expensive, has all the ports,

I just bought a brand-new 2015 model 15 inch, which Apple still sells. Best laptop I bought, couldn't be happier. It's a lot less expensive, has all the ports, extraordinary 12 hour battery for me doing C++ in Emacs all day. Still has escape key for evil mode in Emacs. I thought about switching to a Windows machine, but I'm really glad I stayed with Apple on this one. I think time will tell on the most recent new models, and I bet Apple will address many of the complaints. Many people are not early adopters of any new release by any major manufacturer, specifically for this reason. The first iteration of major new designs by most super large companies are often met with a wide range of divergent opinions. I suspect Apple will be smart to listen to consumers and improve the next iteration of this current new model.

davidf18 10y ago
I've been using the same model, but I don't get 12 hour battery life. What is your brightness setting? The 2016 seems to have a longer battery life and the screen is far brighter than the 2015 model which means one can run with the same brightness setting on lower power.
- hellofunk 10y ago
  I agree that the screen is brighter in the new 2016. I never use screens at full brightness, it bothers my eyes. Emacs is very low power, so it uses a lot less battery than CLion or Eclipse, probably. That probably helps. I don't code to music, so that saves battery also. Are you saying that 2016 has longer battery life than 2015? That seems contrary to the current scandal.
  - davidf18 10y ago
    > Are you saying that 2016 has longer battery life than 2015? Yes, that has been my reading and the review [1] confirms about 2 more hours than the 2015 15" model. The brighter screen is relevant for battery use, because the laptop can run on even a relative dimmer setting with same brightness with perhaps even more battery life. 10.12.2 update seemed to fix problems for some people. Others were complaining not realizing high CPU of background processes. With new OS upgrade, e.g., 10.12.1 I do a clean install. Incidentally, I think the 2015 model is an outstanding unit and a far better deal than the 2016 model and great for most people. The extra battery life and smaller, lighter is important for me. [1] http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Late-2016-2-6-GHz-i7-Notebook-Review.185254.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Late-2016-...
    - hellofunk 10y ago
      That's a rather interesting conclusion the review has on the battery. If that's true (which would be great), I wonder why there is such a controversy going on about the batteries, if actually they last longer than the prior models?
      - davidf18 10y ago
        I think it is true. The tables in the article that show power draw for different tasks and models is informative. They compare the 2016 15" with the 2015 15" for idle, WiFi, X.264 video, etc. I think a lot of people with new laptops didn't fully understand that spotlight indexing and other things were going on in the background. Also, it seems as if 10.12.2 update two days ago seems to have fixed problems for some. There is a macrumors forum note with lots of replies confirms this for some. I am a fan of fresh installs with each new OS release and I think that and using Safari and not Chrome, using Ghostery and Adblock Plus (or whatever), and some other things I do to take out unnecessary processes makes a difference for me.
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davidf18 10y ago

I've been using the same model, but I don't get 12 hour battery life. What is your brightness setting? The 2016 seems to have a longer battery life and the screen is far brighter than the 2015 model which means one can run with the same brightness setting on lower power.

hellofunk 10y ago
I agree that the screen is brighter in the new 2016. I never use screens at full brightness, it bothers my eyes. Emacs is very low power, so it uses a lot less battery than CLion or Eclipse, probably. That probably helps. I don't code to music, so that saves battery also. Are you saying that 2016 has longer battery life than 2015? That seems contrary to the current scandal.
- davidf18 10y ago
  > Are you saying that 2016 has longer battery life than 2015? Yes, that has been my reading and the review [1] confirms about 2 more hours than the 2015 15" model. The brighter screen is relevant for battery use, because the laptop can run on even a relative dimmer setting with same brightness with perhaps even more battery life. 10.12.2 update seemed to fix problems for some people. Others were complaining not realizing high CPU of background processes. With new OS upgrade, e.g., 10.12.1 I do a clean install. Incidentally, I think the 2015 model is an outstanding unit and a far better deal than the 2016 model and great for most people. The extra battery life and smaller, lighter is important for me. [1] http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Late-2016-2-6-GHz-i7-Notebook-Review.185254.0.html http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-Late-2016-...
  - hellofunk 10y ago
    That's a rather interesting conclusion the review has on the battery. If that's true (which would be great), I wonder why there is such a controversy going on about the batteries, if actually they last longer than the prior models?
    - davidf18 10y ago
      I think it is true. The tables in the article that show power draw for different tasks and models is informative. They compare the 2016 15" with the 2015 15" for idle, WiFi, X.264 video, etc. I think a lot of people with new laptops didn't fully understand that spotlight indexing and other things were going on in the background. Also, it seems as if 10.12.2 update two days ago seems to have fixed problems for some. There is a macrumors forum note with lots of replies confirms this for some. I am a fan of fresh installs with each new OS release and I think that and using Safari and not Chrome, using Ghostery and Adblock Plus (or whatever), and some other things I do to take out unnecessary processes makes a difference for me.

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