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> And people wonder why Trump won?!? The same Trump who's been back-tracking and 'reconsidering' all his campaign promises before he's even spent one day in of

by 0xfeba 10y ago

> And people wonder why Trump won?!? The same Trump who's been back-tracking and 'reconsidering' all his campaign promises before he's even spent one day in office? The same people who think that a billionaire placing other billionaires in his cabinet is somehow an "outsider" to the elites and going to help them?

imgabe 10y ago
So, when he said these things during the campaign, they were horrible awful things that made him a lunatic idiot. But, now if he "reconsiders" these horrible idiotic things he's suddenly a backtracking flip-flopper?
- tobltobs 10y ago
  Oh, come on. This kind of cheap troll shit on HN is disgusting. But oh, for the case you really don't understand: He "reconsiders" his promises like "drawning the swamp" not his idiotic accusations and lies. You can try to spin this as hard as you want, but it is obvious that everybody who elected Trump for his promises is dumb.
  - imgabe 10y ago
    You're not being specific about which promises you're upset about backtracking on. "Jail Hillary" was a promise that he backtracked on, too. So was increased torture. As far as trolls go, I'm not the one here labeling 60 million people I don't know "dump as bread".
    - pjc50 10y ago
      While I'm happy for him to have backtracked on "jail hillary" it's not because he's actually reconsidered the position or now declares her to be innocent; it's simply never mentioned again. Which shows what a cynical thing it was to campaign on in the first place.
      - imgabe 10y ago
        That's incorrect. He's been asked about it directly in interviews several times since the election and has stated that he's not interested in pursuing it and it's not something he wants to focus on as President.
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- pjc50 10y ago
  Not necessarily the same set of things. It's not clear whether he's reconsidered the "wall" yet, for example. He did run as an anti-establishment anti-Goldman Sachs candidate and then appoint lots of ex-GS people to his cabinet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38269257 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38269257
- Phlarp 10y ago
  Yes.
- 0xfeba 10y ago
  Yes, both of those statements can be true at the same time. But in this case, yes, I'm glad he's backtracking, I expected it for most of his outlandish claims. But now we have someone who says ridiculous things, does other ridiculous things, and none of them seem to line up. We just don't know what we're going to get. Luckily, he's old, hasn't worked an 8 hour day in his life, and will likely be letting Pence run the show from behind the scenes, whom while I disagree with vehemently, he's at least predictable.
jklinger410 10y ago
IIRC Trump won before he started backing out of his campaign promises.
- pasquinelli 10y ago
  No one has a reason to take trump's promises seriously.
  - 0xfeba 10y ago
    I can name a whole bunch of people, and show a bunch of people that do take them seriously. And are already furious he's backed down on jailing Hillary, for example.
- delecti 10y ago
  But he started backing out of his campaign promises before even taking office.

by 0xfeba 10y ago

imgabe 10y ago

So, when he said these things during the campaign, they were horrible awful things that made him a lunatic idiot. But, now if he "reconsiders" these horrible idiotic things he's suddenly a backtracking flip-flopper?

tobltobs 10y ago
Oh, come on. This kind of cheap troll shit on HN is disgusting. But oh, for the case you really don't understand: He "reconsiders" his promises like "drawning the swamp" not his idiotic accusations and lies. You can try to spin this as hard as you want, but it is obvious that everybody who elected Trump for his promises is dumb.
- imgabe 10y ago
  You're not being specific about which promises you're upset about backtracking on. "Jail Hillary" was a promise that he backtracked on, too. So was increased torture. As far as trolls go, I'm not the one here labeling 60 million people I don't know "dump as bread".
  - pjc50 10y ago
    While I'm happy for him to have backtracked on "jail hillary" it's not because he's actually reconsidered the position or now declares her to be innocent; it's simply never mentioned again. Which shows what a cynical thing it was to campaign on in the first place.
    - imgabe 10y ago
      That's incorrect. He's been asked about it directly in interviews several times since the election and has stated that he's not interested in pursuing it and it's not something he wants to focus on as President.
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pjc50 10y ago
Not necessarily the same set of things. It's not clear whether he's reconsidered the "wall" yet, for example. He did run as an anti-establishment anti-Goldman Sachs candidate and then appoint lots of ex-GS people to his cabinet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38269257 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38269257
Phlarp 10y ago
Yes.
0xfeba 10y ago
Yes, both of those statements can be true at the same time. But in this case, yes, I'm glad he's backtracking, I expected it for most of his outlandish claims. But now we have someone who says ridiculous things, does other ridiculous things, and none of them seem to line up. We just don't know what we're going to get. Luckily, he's old, hasn't worked an 8 hour day in his life, and will likely be letting Pence run the show from behind the scenes, whom while I disagree with vehemently, he's at least predictable.

jklinger410 10y ago

IIRC Trump won before he started backing out of his campaign promises.

pasquinelli 10y ago
No one has a reason to take trump's promises seriously.
- 0xfeba 10y ago
  I can name a whole bunch of people, and show a bunch of people that do take them seriously. And are already furious he's backed down on jailing Hillary, for example.
delecti 10y ago
But he started backing out of his campaign promises before even taking office.