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Let's hope you're wrong about that and libre computing finds its way into the data center! By the way, we do exist.

by fnoobor 10y ago

LordWinstanley 10y ago
Don't be disingenuous. It's a crowd-funding campaign. Not an actual product I can buy now. I'm so sick of clicking on headlines on HN which sound like they're describing some interesting product or service, only to be taken to the virtual begging bowl of a crowd-funding page.
- fnoobor 10y ago
  If you don't find our product interesting, well, that's really our problem. I'm here to have valid arguments, potentially to convince you of the contrary, I'm not here to get attacked for no valid/obvious reason. I'm still open to have a conversation like normal human beings usually have, so if you have questions related to our crowdfunding campaign, please ask. Vikings exists to further libre software, libre-friendly hardware and improve the existing, locked-up "hosting industry" that often works against their own users and at the very least don't care for their privacy.
  - LordWinstanley 10y ago
    Are you being deliberately obtuse? Where did I say I wasn't interested in the concept of your [non-existent] product? What I'm objecting to are the constant 'product announcement' headlines on HN which, rather than link to an actual, real product or service people can actually buy, link to a crowd-funding campaign. Why can't you see that that is click-baity? So if I post an article entitled "£10 Device Converts Household Waste to Diamonds" and link people to a crowd-funding campaign where I say. "If you give me eleventy-billion pounds I'll make a magic machine that converts household waste into diamonds —and I'll sell it for only£9,99" you don't see anything wrong with that? Your own crowd-funding campaign blurb says: "...Vikings plans to change that. We WILL build a state-of-the-art data center that WILL cover all your hosting needs; based on fully libre[1] software..." [my emphasis on "will"] ..and you're asking for people to give you between €520 000 and €800 000 to do so! So you want the public to buy the data-centre and hardware for you, and you want to run the data-centre on software that other people have written and provided for free for you, while you presumably charge people for hosting their data there and 'laugh all the way to the bank' —and then you have the cheek to act all entitled and hurt when someone calls you out on the fact that your 'product announcement' headline is promoting something which doesn't actually exist. Jeebus!—talk about 'Generation Snowflake'!

Let's hope you're wrong about that and libre computing finds its way into the data center! By the way, we do exist.

by fnoobor 10y ago

Let's hope you're wrong about that and libre computing finds its way into the data center! By the way, we do exist.

Don't be disingenuous. It's a crowd-funding campaign. Not an actual product I can buy now. I'm so sick of clicking on headlines on HN which sound like they're describing some interesting product or service, only to be taken to the virtual begging bowl of a crowd-funding page.

fnoobor 10y ago
If you don't find our product interesting, well, that's really our problem. I'm here to have valid arguments, potentially to convince you of the contrary, I'm not here to get attacked for no valid/obvious reason. I'm still open to have a conversation like normal human beings usually have, so if you have questions related to our crowdfunding campaign, please ask. Vikings exists to further libre software, libre-friendly hardware and improve the existing, locked-up "hosting industry" that often works against their own users and at the very least don't care for their privacy.
- LordWinstanley 10y ago
  Are you being deliberately obtuse? Where did I say I wasn't interested in the concept of your [non-existent] product? What I'm objecting to are the constant 'product announcement' headlines on HN which, rather than link to an actual, real product or service people can actually buy, link to a crowd-funding campaign. Why can't you see that that is click-baity? So if I post an article entitled "£10 Device Converts Household Waste to Diamonds" and link people to a crowd-funding campaign where I say. "If you give me eleventy-billion pounds I'll make a magic machine that converts household waste into diamonds —and I'll sell it for only£9,99" you don't see anything wrong with that? Your own crowd-funding campaign blurb says: "...Vikings plans to change that. We WILL build a state-of-the-art data center that WILL cover all your hosting needs; based on fully libre[1] software..." [my emphasis on "will"] ..and you're asking for people to give you between €520 000 and €800 000 to do so! So you want the public to buy the data-centre and hardware for you, and you want to run the data-centre on software that other people have written and provided for free for you, while you presumably charge people for hosting their data there and 'laugh all the way to the bank' —and then you have the cheek to act all entitled and hurt when someone calls you out on the fact that your 'product announcement' headline is promoting something which doesn't actually exist. Jeebus!—talk about 'Generation Snowflake'!