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I'm saying that the Clintons and Trump are a lot closer than people realize: People with knowledge of the call in both camps said it was one of many that Clint

I'm saying that the Clintons and Trump are a lot closer than people realize: People with knowledge of the call in both camps said it was one of many that Clinton and Trump have had over the years, whether about golf or donations to the Clinton Foundation. But the call in May was considered especially sensitive, coming soon after Hillary Rodham Clinton had declared her own presidential run the month before. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-... These people being so close makes it strange that the elcetion of one would cause fear while the other would cause things to go on as usual.

Jtsummers 10y ago
You're referencing talks between Mr. Clinton and Mr. Trump, not Mrs. Clinton. And then you try and draw conclusions about how similar Mrs. Clinton's and Mr. Trump's presidencies would have been?
- aaron-lebo 10y ago
  People that have been married for decades tend to be pretty similar.
  - Jtsummers 10y ago
    Can you offer evidence, then, that Hillary Clinton by way of Bill Clinton would have had a very similar set of policies to Donald Trump based on the apparent personal connection between Bill and Donald and the marital relationship between Hillary and Bill? Or is this all just nonsense?
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  - DonHopkins 10y ago
    >Hell, one of Trump's first statements after that infamous tape was: "Bill Clinton has said worse things to me on the golf course". I'm inclined to believe him [0]. Pretty similar, huh? So you're inclined to believe that Hillary has said worse things to Trump on the golf course too?
rabbyte 10y ago
It's about probability, expectations, and complexity. A status quo candidate with a lifetime of political occupancy and a finely tuned brand of political strategy is simply more predictable; good or bad, the creation of a plan of action is less complex. An unconventional candidate with shifting priorities, an affinity for stirring tensions, challenging long-held principles of the democratic system is going to require a contextual kind of defense which is infinitely more complex.

Jtsummers 10y ago

You're referencing talks between Mr. Clinton and Mr. Trump, not Mrs. Clinton. And then you try and draw conclusions about how similar Mrs. Clinton's and Mr. Trump's presidencies would have been?

aaron-lebo 10y ago
People that have been married for decades tend to be pretty similar.
- Jtsummers 10y ago
  Can you offer evidence, then, that Hillary Clinton by way of Bill Clinton would have had a very similar set of policies to Donald Trump based on the apparent personal connection between Bill and Donald and the marital relationship between Hillary and Bill? Or is this all just nonsense?
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- DonHopkins 10y ago
  >Hell, one of Trump's first statements after that infamous tape was: "Bill Clinton has said worse things to me on the golf course". I'm inclined to believe him [0]. Pretty similar, huh? So you're inclined to believe that Hillary has said worse things to Trump on the golf course too?

rabbyte 10y ago

It's about probability, expectations, and complexity. A status quo candidate with a lifetime of political occupancy and a finely tuned brand of political strategy is simply more predictable; good or bad, the creation of a plan of action is less complex. An unconventional candidate with shifting priorities, an affinity for stirring tensions, challenging long-held principles of the democratic system is going to require a contextual kind of defense which is infinitely more complex.