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Not necessarily the NSA, but I don't particular trust either Google, or especially Facebook if they launched something like this, to not be listening to ad-rela

by Centine 10y ago

Not necessarily the NSA, but I don't particular trust either Google, or especially Facebook if they launched something like this, to not be listening to ad-related keywords.

soylentcola 10y ago
It only sends info to Google's servers after hearing the "hot word" but sure, it more than likely will analyze your requests in a similar fashion to the requests you type into the search box on your browser. Worth noting as this may or may not be a dealbreaker depending on your personal choices/concerns.
- type0 10y ago
  > may not be a dealbreaker depending on your personal choices/concerns. How is it not a dealbreaker that companies like Google and Facebook are destroying internet privacy and undermine the whole foundations of democracy. If I visit a friend I would require him to tell me if my speech is being recorded by google or anyone else that he is aware of, privacy is a matter of dignity and will always be the cornerstone of human rights, it's not a matter of personal choices/concerns it's a fundamental concern of how we want our society to be.
  - lsaferite 10y ago
    Did you just miss the "It only sends info to Google's servers after hearing the 'hot word'" part? It's not like these devices are open microphones pushing data to Amazon/Google/Microsoft. They use onboard processing to detect their personal wake words and then stream your audio until a defined audio gap. That is then processed into text and kicks off the automated routines. Do they analyze this for ad-related keywords? Perhaps (Probably), but that is a different argument that is valid vs. an invalid argument that it's always streaming.
    - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
      > Did you just miss the "It only sends info to Google's servers after hearing the 'hot word'" part? And where's the guarantee of that? Can we see the code? Can we turn off the microphones in hardware?
      - jxy 10y ago
        Just like every laptop/phone/tablet has a built-in microphone and we can't turn it off either. All it takes is for Apple/Microsoft/Google/Amazon to push a system update, and, voila~~~ Skynet listens to all.

by Centine 10y ago

Not necessarily the NSA, but I don't particular trust either Google, or especially Facebook if they launched something like this, to not be listening to ad-related keywords.

soylentcola 10y ago

It only sends info to Google's servers after hearing the "hot word" but sure, it more than likely will analyze your requests in a similar fashion to the requests you type into the search box on your browser. Worth noting as this may or may not be a dealbreaker depending on your personal choices/concerns.

type0 10y ago
> may not be a dealbreaker depending on your personal choices/concerns. How is it not a dealbreaker that companies like Google and Facebook are destroying internet privacy and undermine the whole foundations of democracy. If I visit a friend I would require him to tell me if my speech is being recorded by google or anyone else that he is aware of, privacy is a matter of dignity and will always be the cornerstone of human rights, it's not a matter of personal choices/concerns it's a fundamental concern of how we want our society to be.
- lsaferite 10y ago
  Did you just miss the "It only sends info to Google's servers after hearing the 'hot word'" part? It's not like these devices are open microphones pushing data to Amazon/Google/Microsoft. They use onboard processing to detect their personal wake words and then stream your audio until a defined audio gap. That is then processed into text and kicks off the automated routines. Do they analyze this for ad-related keywords? Perhaps (Probably), but that is a different argument that is valid vs. an invalid argument that it's always streaming.
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    > Did you just miss the "It only sends info to Google's servers after hearing the 'hot word'" part? And where's the guarantee of that? Can we see the code? Can we turn off the microphones in hardware?
    - jxy 10y ago
      Just like every laptop/phone/tablet has a built-in microphone and we can't turn it off either. All it takes is for Apple/Microsoft/Google/Amazon to push a system update, and, voila~~~ Skynet listens to all.