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"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz Also, by that logic, any H1B worker that refuses to spy

"My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." - Carl Schurz Also, by that logic, any H1B worker that refuses to spy on his company on behalf of his country of citizenship would be a traitor. Do you really want that to be the operative ethics when most S.V. companies are made from people from all over the world? Because I certainly do not.

ronreiter 10y ago
You don't have to be part of it. If you find out that you are part of it then just quit. But by blowing the whistle you endanger thousands of lives, and you think that just because you're some sort of freedom fighter then it's OK. It's not OK. You want to fight the freedom fight? Go work in politics. Don't screw your own country. BTW - I'm not from the US.
- Fnoord 10y ago
  > It's not OK. You want to fight the freedom fight? Go work in politics. Don't screw your own country. Except, whistleblowing generally doesn't work like that. It is not as if someone joins an organisation with the intention of blowing the whistle. If you look into the story of a whistleblower (countless of examples available), you'll see they're just hard working employees who work for their employee, and who stand behind their employee (regardless of if the employee is a government or a company or an NGO). What happens then, is the person decides to become a whistleblower because if this is being cover-up or silenced, it is wrong. IOW, they notice wrong doings the general public ought to know. Lets forget all the obvious examples of Binney, Snowden, Manning, and the like. Take for example the whistleblowing on Jacob Appelbaum alleged sexual harassment. Those people who blowed the whistle weren't "out to get him". As far as they were concerned they never wanted to blow a whistle, and just lead a happy (employed/) life and their current employer. Even someone like Assange 'grew into it' somehow, and he's both an outlier and an agent _for_ whistleblowers. [] Or, if not being paid, volunteer.
- ionised 10y ago
  > But by blowing the whistle you endanger thousands of lives Waiting for you to present your concrete evidence backing this claim up.

ronreiter 10y ago

You don't have to be part of it. If you find out that you are part of it then just quit. But by blowing the whistle you endanger thousands of lives, and you think that just because you're some sort of freedom fighter then it's OK. It's not OK. You want to fight the freedom fight? Go work in politics. Don't screw your own country. BTW - I'm not from the US.

Fnoord 10y ago
> It's not OK. You want to fight the freedom fight? Go work in politics. Don't screw your own country. Except, whistleblowing generally doesn't work like that. It is not as if someone joins an organisation with the intention of blowing the whistle. If you look into the story of a whistleblower (countless of examples available), you'll see they're just hard working employees who work for their employee, and who stand behind their employee (regardless of if the employee is a government or a company or an NGO). What happens then, is the person decides to become a whistleblower because if this is being cover-up or silenced, it is wrong. IOW, they notice wrong doings the general public ought to know. Lets forget all the obvious examples of Binney, Snowden, Manning, and the like. Take for example the whistleblowing on Jacob Appelbaum alleged sexual harassment. Those people who blowed the whistle weren't "out to get him". As far as they were concerned they never wanted to blow a whistle, and just lead a happy (employed/) life and their current employer. Even someone like Assange 'grew into it' somehow, and he's both an outlier and an agent _for_ whistleblowers. [] Or, if not being paid, volunteer.
ionised 10y ago
> But by blowing the whistle you endanger thousands of lives Waiting for you to present your concrete evidence backing this claim up.