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What's the differentiating factor between them and Tesla? Why would I buy an Air, when it seems to be similarly specced to (and less attractive than) a model S

What's the differentiating factor between them and Tesla? Why would I buy an Air, when it seems to be similarly specced to (and less attractive than) a model S, from a far better know company?

Solinoid 10y ago
Do people really find Tesla cars attractive? I get a solid 'engineered, not designed' vibe from them. I don't think in 20 years time they'll be considered classics. This thing is pretty nice looking, but it's not fair to judge a real car vs. photos.
- brianbreslin 10y ago
  Purely subjective: I love the model S design, loathe the Model X design.
- l33tbro 10y ago
  Pretty certain they'll be classics regardless, due to historical and cultural importance.
  - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
    OTOH, I'm pretty certain a <2015 Model S in working condition in 2035 will be about as rare as a genuine Lancia Stratos is today. They're just not built for longevity, and have a completely proprietary repair tooling and electronics setup. I doubt we'll e.g. ever see a Haynes manual for one.
- holycrapwhodat 10y ago
  > This thing is pretty nice looking o_O
- redthrowaway 10y ago
  A Model S is pleasing, not beautiful. It reminds me a bit of Mazda's design language, or some of the more Aston-y Fords. It's not a pinup, but it's a nice car to look at.
  - arethuza 10y ago
    My first reaction to seeing a Model S was that it looked very much like a variation on a them of a Ford Mondeo - a handsome car but not striking. Only seen one Model X and didn't think that was nearly as nice looking - mind you it was in white which might not be a good colour for it.
- r00fus 10y ago
  I've argued prior that Tesla's Model S will be like Apple's MacBook Air - a design that ultimately turned the entire industry on it's head. I'd say it's nice looking, but more importantly it's iconic.
hwillis 10y ago
If they are guessing at NEDC measurements then they are claiming 19 miles more than a Model S of the same battery size, and 250 more horsepower. If they expect 400 miles EPA rated range, then they are expecting 30% more range than a P100D. Which, frankly, is ridiculous. They're also claiming full autonamous hardware and coming software, which is highly suspect. I also am wary of the fact that so much of the car looks explicitly like a Tesla. Center console screen, model 3 roof, Tesla-like nose, Tesla-like wheels, Tesla door handles, even a Tesla-like font. That said they do apparently have a lot invested. The car is clearly intended to be a step above a model S. They have executive features, more power, and a more detailed interior (although, no leather?).

What's the differentiating factor between them and Tesla? Why would I buy an Air, when it seems to be similarly specced to (and less attractive than) a model S, from a far better know company?

Solinoid 10y ago

Do people really find Tesla cars attractive? I get a solid 'engineered, not designed' vibe from them. I don't think in 20 years time they'll be considered classics. This thing is pretty nice looking, but it's not fair to judge a real car vs. photos.

brianbreslin 10y ago
Purely subjective: I love the model S design, loathe the Model X design.
l33tbro 10y ago
Pretty certain they'll be classics regardless, due to historical and cultural importance.
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  OTOH, I'm pretty certain a <2015 Model S in working condition in 2035 will be about as rare as a genuine Lancia Stratos is today. They're just not built for longevity, and have a completely proprietary repair tooling and electronics setup. I doubt we'll e.g. ever see a Haynes manual for one.
holycrapwhodat 10y ago
> This thing is pretty nice looking o_O
redthrowaway 10y ago
A Model S is pleasing, not beautiful. It reminds me a bit of Mazda's design language, or some of the more Aston-y Fords. It's not a pinup, but it's a nice car to look at.
- arethuza 10y ago
  My first reaction to seeing a Model S was that it looked very much like a variation on a them of a Ford Mondeo - a handsome car but not striking. Only seen one Model X and didn't think that was nearly as nice looking - mind you it was in white which might not be a good colour for it.
r00fus 10y ago
I've argued prior that Tesla's Model S will be like Apple's MacBook Air - a design that ultimately turned the entire industry on it's head. I'd say it's nice looking, but more importantly it's iconic.

hwillis 10y ago

If they are guessing at NEDC measurements then they are claiming 19 miles more than a Model S of the same battery size, and 250 more horsepower. If they expect 400 miles EPA rated range, then they are expecting 30% more range than a P100D. Which, frankly, is ridiculous. They're also claiming full autonamous hardware and coming software, which is highly suspect. I also am wary of the fact that so much of the car looks explicitly like a Tesla. Center console screen, model 3 roof, Tesla-like nose, Tesla-like wheels, Tesla door handles, even a Tesla-like font. That said they do apparently have a lot invested. The car is clearly intended to be a step above a model S. They have executive features, more power, and a more detailed interior (although, no leather?).