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... "offshore workers" are not a race. You realize offshore workers could be the same race as the person posting right?

by 234dd57d2c8db 10y ago

Helmet 10y ago
Given the context, you know damn well what he means - it's coded speech and I refuse to believe that you're that naive.
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- knieveltech 10y ago
  You claim to be able to accurately discern intent from plaintext on the internet? If true you're wasted anywhere outside the justice system.
mlangdon 10y ago
This is technically true, which is the best kind of true. Swap in nationalist, chauvinist. It's utterly clear what was meant by racism above, in spite of your semantics.
- WillPostForFood 10y ago
  Yes we understand, racist is the liberal catch all for anyone you disagree with. The problem is that it dilutes the value of the word, so when someone deserves to be called racist, it people don't know if they really are racist, or are just opposed to outsourcing jobs.
- ra1n85 10y ago
  I want to write and name a macro after you! Anytime I want, I can just append -obe or -ist to any word in any document I'm writing...regardless of context or meaning! As a bonus, it will recognize file-extension-neutral files (all 822 of them!).
- 234dd57d2c8db 10y ago
  Racist is the laziest argument ever and it's diluting the word. If people were more accurate about describing problems, their criticisms wouldn't be dismissed to easily. A perfect example is Donald Trump. Every argument about Trump became "he's a racist!!11", which caused people to ignore and focus on the wrong problems with him! There was a lot of negatives to Trump, and yet everyone just said "Racist, boom I don't need to argue any more!" People started ignoring completely legit arguments because the racist angle was so overplayed. I'm sick of hearing racist as the end-all be-all argument. It doesn't work anymore, the card is overplayed. The only place it still works is in liberal bubbles. (Note I'm socially liberal, fiscal conservative moderate, no dog in this race)
  - Apocryphon 10y ago
    That's true. That's why there's also the umbrella term, "bigoted", when referring to bias stemming from ignorant prejudice. The watering down of "racist" to equal all forms of bigot is indeed a problem, and you have brought up a valid concern.
MarkMc 10y ago
I don't know whether sqldba was suggesting something racist, but I would say it is not necessary to identify a particular race hint at a racist viewpoint. When Ronald Regan said "welfare queen", did he mean to imply "black woman on welfare"? If I write, "Middle-eastern people are lazy" do I mean to imply "Arabs are lazy - but not necessarily Jews"? I also wonder whether you can have a racist view of your own race. For example, a stereotype is that black people are inherently bad at math - are there any blacks that believe this?
- daveguy 10y ago
  Yes. You can be racist against your own race.

... "offshore workers" are not a race. You realize offshore workers could be the same race as the person posting right?

Helmet 10y ago

Given the context, you know damn well what he means - it's coded speech and I refuse to believe that you're that naive.

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knieveltech 10y ago
You claim to be able to accurately discern intent from plaintext on the internet? If true you're wasted anywhere outside the justice system.

mlangdon 10y ago

This is technically true, which is the best kind of true. Swap in nationalist, chauvinist. It's utterly clear what was meant by racism above, in spite of your semantics.

WillPostForFood 10y ago
Yes we understand, racist is the liberal catch all for anyone you disagree with. The problem is that it dilutes the value of the word, so when someone deserves to be called racist, it people don't know if they really are racist, or are just opposed to outsourcing jobs.
ra1n85 10y ago
I want to write and name a macro after you! Anytime I want, I can just append -obe or -ist to any word in any document I'm writing...regardless of context or meaning! As a bonus, it will recognize file-extension-neutral files (all 822 of them!).
234dd57d2c8db 10y ago
Racist is the laziest argument ever and it's diluting the word. If people were more accurate about describing problems, their criticisms wouldn't be dismissed to easily. A perfect example is Donald Trump. Every argument about Trump became "he's a racist!!11", which caused people to ignore and focus on the wrong problems with him! There was a lot of negatives to Trump, and yet everyone just said "Racist, boom I don't need to argue any more!" People started ignoring completely legit arguments because the racist angle was so overplayed. I'm sick of hearing racist as the end-all be-all argument. It doesn't work anymore, the card is overplayed. The only place it still works is in liberal bubbles. (Note I'm socially liberal, fiscal conservative moderate, no dog in this race)
- Apocryphon 10y ago
  That's true. That's why there's also the umbrella term, "bigoted", when referring to bias stemming from ignorant prejudice. The watering down of "racist" to equal all forms of bigot is indeed a problem, and you have brought up a valid concern.

MarkMc 10y ago

I don't know whether sqldba was suggesting something racist, but I would say it is not necessary to identify a particular race hint at a racist viewpoint. When Ronald Regan said "welfare queen", did he mean to imply "black woman on welfare"? If I write, "Middle-eastern people are lazy" do I mean to imply "Arabs are lazy - but not necessarily Jews"? I also wonder whether you can have a racist view of your own race. For example, a stereotype is that black people are inherently bad at math - are there any blacks that believe this?

daveguy 10y ago
Yes. You can be racist against your own race.