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What incredibly creepy experiments. Makes you glad we have ethics committees these days.
by philk 16y ago
What incredibly creepy experiments. Makes you glad we have ethics committees these days.
- bergkampf 16y agoIt doesn't make me glad. I think we could achieve much more significant progress in science if we weren't held back by ethical demagoguery.
- philk 16y agoVoting you up because I see your point, but the problem is that without ethics committees you get cases like these slipping through. When the public hears about these cases it serves as a rallying cry for the animal rights movement and makes it harder for everyone doing animal research, even those who aren't torturing monkeys because they're emotionally disturbed.
- TheBranca18 16y agoImmediately quotations from Spiderman ("With great power comes great responsiblity") and Jurassic Park ("Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.") come to mind. Human progress without ethics and compassion is no progress at all.
- philk 16y agoNot really. If they derive a cure for cancer unethically, and I have cancer, I'll be the first in line for it.
- joshuarr 16y agoLuckily for you, many PIs in the research field agree with you and have lax morals when it comes to torturing innocent defenseless animals. Compliance is a joke and doing whatever the hell you want to whatever creature you want (humans included, mind you) is as easy as checking a box on a piece of paper that nobody reads. Our species is a virus, and we do whatever we can to protect our own kind until there is nothing else left.
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- rdtsc 16y agoI wish we had ethics committees for human beings that we locked up without trial for a decade in Cuba or tortured around the world.
- _pius 16y agoWe do: http://www.icj-cij.org/ http://www.icj-cij.org/
- rdtsc 16y agoNo, the civilized world does... "...The United States withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction in 1986, and so accepts the court's jurisdiction only on a case-to-case basis." (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice second paragraph).