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I'm not convinced this explanation-by-analogy style is really all that helpful, particularly with regards to "the big bang is an expanding balloon". What makes
by goodside 16y ago
I'm not convinced this explanation-by-analogy style is really all that helpful, particularly with regards to "the big bang is an expanding balloon". What makes it such a confusing analogy is that most people were already picturing something like an expanding sphere anyway, just one filled uniformly with matter moving away from a central point as it expands. And it doesn't reinforce that the Universe has no center, since most people can easily imagine what the center of a balloon is.
So, screw the analogy. Here's what we know.
Right now, everything is moving away from us in proportion to its distance from us. Read that again, because that's the fundamental observation. The usual intuitive view that lay people have is that we're drifting away from the Big Bang on inertia left over from the explosion. This would not result in what we see. For everything to move away from us in direct proportion to its distance, everything would have to be speeding up all of the time. When we're distance d from the Big Bang, we're drifting away from it at half the speed that we are when we're distance 2d away. Inertia doesn't do that. So much for inertia.
Maybe it's not inertia, but some kind of Magic Inertia that we don't understand? A kind that pushes things faster and faster as time goes on, like little angels perpetually flapping their wings to add momentum to every atom. That's great for a while, but you hit another problem: the speed of light. If you're already moving away at (nearly) light-speed, you can't double your speed. Doubling your momentum will just give bring you infinitesimally closer to light-speed. D'oh.
So what is the answer? The closest you can get without worrying about math is probably this: Space is being created, and distance is somehow being inserted in the gaps between everything, and this happens continuously and everywhere. The other, more accurate, way to see it is that the meaning of "distance" and "duration" (that is, the metric we use to determine the distance between points, both in space and time) is itself changing as the Universe expands.
This results in some observables that cannot be explained otherwise, and which we do actually observe. In this model, everything (at intergalactic distances) does indeed increase its distance from everything else, and in direct proportion to the original distance. Since this is a change in the spacetime metric, rather than actual movement within spacetime, it does not result in relativistic effects that you would see if it were literal movement. There are galaxies in the sky right now whose distance from us is literally increasing at a rate that would be impossible if it were due to movement, since it would require movement faster than the speed of light. That's the clincher--the reason no other model can possibly work.
This "metric expansion of spacetime" maybe sounds like a cop-out, like something's been invented just to explain the Big Bang, but it hasn't. This is exactly what matter does in the normal scales of planets and stars. The changing of the spacetime metric is what gravity fundamentally is, as Einstein explained with General Relativity. It's the reason clocks run slower on Earth than they do in space, and it's the reason the planets stay in their orbits. It's all really just quite ordinary.
- mojuba 16y agoPlus, we still aren't 100% sure if the red shift is due to the Doppler effect, or something else and then the Universe is not expanding at all. I always found it strange that there is such a simple and straightforward correlation between distance and speed. It should have been more complicated than that, shoudln't it?
- goodside 16y agoNo. We're sure. We can observe that the universe was hotter and denser in the past because light takes time to get here, so when you look far enough into space you see older things. Also, there are tons of incidental facts about the doppler shift that can only be explained by Hubble Expansion. The best one that comes to mind is the "Finger of God" effect where galaxies are stretched out in doppler phase with an axis pointed toward the observer. This isn't caused by Hubble Expansion directly, but by the peculiar velocity (velocity within spacetime rather than metric expansion) caused by gravitation bonding acting against the Hubble Expansion. That is, when Hubble Expansion tries to pull a galaxy apart, the gravity of the stars keeps it together, and there are effects from that which we can calculate very precisely, and we see exactly what we would expect to. The existence and relative long-term stability of Hubble Expansion is, frankly, one of the most certain things anyone knows about physics. If you can replace it with something else, it has to be something that reduces to the exact phenomenon of Hubble Expansion under the normal conditions our Universe is currently in.
- mojuba 16y agoI'm not quite sure I understand the effect with galaxies. So let's say from two opposite parts of a galaxy we would expect certain difference in red shifts because of the distance (one part is farther than the other), but what we observe is not that?
- boredguy8 16y agoYour question reads like you think there's an expansion from something to somewhere else. Like, as though people were periodically allowed to run in opposite directions from a 50 yard line, and we're observing them from the 35 yard line as we slowly run in one direction or the other. But that's not what's going on, given the near-uniformity of cosmic microwave background radiation.