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Elon Musk explicitly said it would be disaster if Trump wins and now he is Trump advisor. Hypocrisy and love for money obviously Tr(i)umphed again.

by lukaa 10y ago

csallen 10y ago
I don't see the hypocrisy. Trump never said he wouldn't be advised by Elon Musk, nor did Musk say he would never advise Trump. Agreeing to advise someone who you didn't want to win the office (but who nevertheless did) is not hypocritical.
gberger 10y ago
Maybe he is trying his best to minimize the disaster? That is how I read it.
jasondigitized 10y ago
The best and right thing for Elon ( and anyone other awesome person ) to do is try and influence Trump. Being on his advisory board is a means of doing that.
Diederich 10y ago
Can you explain the hypocrisy? Elon Musk has a couple of well defined, over-riding goals: to make humans a multi-planetary species and to see humanity move to sustainable power. To those ends he's fully committed. Making a lot of money is one necessary, interim step along the way. As is working with/coordinating with the US Government.
- lukaa 10y ago
  Hypocrisy means he is bad for country but sense he is now in power I'll join him to make my business better and now Trump is not so bad. Saying one thing and doing another is definition of hypocrisy.
  - Diederich 10y ago
    > ... and now Trump is not so bad I'm pretty sure most people's basic opinions of Trump haven't changed. In fact, I think it's a pretty admirable trait to be willing to work with someone that you might personally detest in order to make the best of a bad situation. The easy but wrong thing thing is to refuse any cooperation if someone you don't like is in power. That's largely what the Republicans in the House have been doing for the past eight years. That's not a way forward, that just deepens divides and future gridlock.
mikeash 10y ago
That's as hypocritical as going to New Orleans to help with relief efforts after saying that Katrina would devastate the city. I.e. not even a little bit.
- lukaa 10y ago
  No, it's like doing relief efforts with Katrina
  - mikeash 10y ago
    If you can't make it go away, there's nothing wrong with doing what you can to help reduce the impact. Edit: the dispute here probably comes down to consequentialism versus deontology, as is so often the case. If you think that reducing the harm caused by Trump is what matters, then working with him after opposing him makes sense. If you think that working with him is immoral and that the outcome doesn't justify it, then this would look like hypocrisy.
mason240 10y ago
I'm sure Hillary Clinton would take part in advising him if he asked. I'm not sure where they hypocrisy is. Advising is not agreeing.

Elon Musk explicitly said it would be disaster if Trump wins and now he is Trump advisor. Hypocrisy and love for money obviously Tr(i)umphed again.

by lukaa 10y ago

Elon Musk explicitly said it would be disaster if Trump wins and now he is Trump advisor. Hypocrisy and love for money obviously Tr(i)umphed again.

csallen 10y ago

I don't see the hypocrisy. Trump never said he wouldn't be advised by Elon Musk, nor did Musk say he would never advise Trump. Agreeing to advise someone who you didn't want to win the office (but who nevertheless did) is not hypocritical.

gberger 10y ago

Maybe he is trying his best to minimize the disaster? That is how I read it.

jasondigitized 10y ago

The best and right thing for Elon ( and anyone other awesome person ) to do is try and influence Trump. Being on his advisory board is a means of doing that.

Diederich 10y ago

Can you explain the hypocrisy? Elon Musk has a couple of well defined, over-riding goals: to make humans a multi-planetary species and to see humanity move to sustainable power. To those ends he's fully committed. Making a lot of money is one necessary, interim step along the way. As is working with/coordinating with the US Government.

lukaa 10y ago
Hypocrisy means he is bad for country but sense he is now in power I'll join him to make my business better and now Trump is not so bad. Saying one thing and doing another is definition of hypocrisy.
- Diederich 10y ago
  > ... and now Trump is not so bad I'm pretty sure most people's basic opinions of Trump haven't changed. In fact, I think it's a pretty admirable trait to be willing to work with someone that you might personally detest in order to make the best of a bad situation. The easy but wrong thing thing is to refuse any cooperation if someone you don't like is in power. That's largely what the Republicans in the House have been doing for the past eight years. That's not a way forward, that just deepens divides and future gridlock.

mikeash 10y ago

That's as hypocritical as going to New Orleans to help with relief efforts after saying that Katrina would devastate the city. I.e. not even a little bit.

lukaa 10y ago
No, it's like doing relief efforts with Katrina
- mikeash 10y ago
  If you can't make it go away, there's nothing wrong with doing what you can to help reduce the impact. Edit: the dispute here probably comes down to consequentialism versus deontology, as is so often the case. If you think that reducing the harm caused by Trump is what matters, then working with him after opposing him makes sense. If you think that working with him is immoral and that the outcome doesn't justify it, then this would look like hypocrisy.

mason240 10y ago

I'm sure Hillary Clinton would take part in advising him if he asked. I'm not sure where they hypocrisy is. Advising is not agreeing.