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Malone makes a good point though: do you think Apple would sue the San Jose Mercury News (or ABC, or Time, or...)? They are suing Gawker because Gawker is weak

by 100k 16y ago

Malone makes a good point though: do you think Apple would sue the San Jose Mercury News (or ABC, or Time, or...)? They are suing Gawker because Gawker is weak, and the rest of the media won't defend a blogger.

jbrennan 16y ago
Apple would probably not sure Time or ABC or any big-time news agency. But I'm guessing this is more because a big-time agency has the sense/legal advising to not buy stolen goods.
ajg1977 16y ago
As of the time of writing, Apple aren't suing anyone. The only current legal activity is that of a criminal investigation into the circumstances that led to the iPhone being in Gizmodo's position. Like Gruber and the above poster, I just don't buy the "left on a barstool" piece of this. A seasoned Apple engineer, in his late 20's, trusted to carry one of a handful of iPhone prototypes, somehow manages to leave it at a bar? If he'd been younger that could be put down to the foolishness of youth, but since he's not then he would have to be an idiot to do this. And Apple don't hire idiots.
- Osmose 16y ago
  One does not have to be an idiot to be forgetful, or perhaps tipsy.
- mkramlich 16y ago
  I like how you imply that someone being in their late 20's would not do something that could be attributed to the foolishness of youth! Late 20's -- yeah that's practically the age of respected senior statesmen, the jaded world-weary traveller, the wise old man down the -- oh wait, wrong end of the spectrum. :) This is not a criticism on your post, just a humorous point about the subjective perception of age and maturity. I'm in my late 30's and definitely look back at my 20's as the decade where I was (a) an adult, technically, but also (b) still engaging in a lot of the foolishness of youth. I'm sure others would feel the same. One's 20's is that decade where you are an adult and yet still in many ways still like a teenager. Especially for folks that don't start having kids yet. On a separate point, I think the fact that he was entrusted with a super secret prototype AND then chose to bring it with him to a bar where alcohol drinking would be going on and lots of people in close proximity to his body, some strangers/non-coworkers, and possibly darkly lit, and so on, says there was some poor judgement going on by him. It may or may not have been a theft, but he is at least partly to blame because he could have taken different actions that would have prevented it from happening. On your point about Apple not hiring idiots: I bet even if Apple hires folks who are smart about engineering they are going to pick some who make poor choices when alcohol is involved. Logic goes out the window after a few shots of vodka and a glance from a pretty woman across the room. :)
- dagw 16y ago
  Late 20's is not old by any definition, and certainly doesn't make you "seasoned". And even if it was, age in no way makes you immune from being foolish, whether drunk or sober. Also being incredibly smart and brilliant in general doesn't preclude you from occasionally being an idiot.
joubert 16y ago
I doubt that abc, time, or san jose mercury news would knowingly buy stolen goods.

by 100k 16y ago

jbrennan 16y ago

Apple would probably not sure Time or ABC or any big-time news agency. But I'm guessing this is more because a big-time agency has the sense/legal advising to not buy stolen goods.

ajg1977 16y ago

As of the time of writing, Apple aren't suing anyone. The only current legal activity is that of a criminal investigation into the circumstances that led to the iPhone being in Gizmodo's position. Like Gruber and the above poster, I just don't buy the "left on a barstool" piece of this. A seasoned Apple engineer, in his late 20's, trusted to carry one of a handful of iPhone prototypes, somehow manages to leave it at a bar? If he'd been younger that could be put down to the foolishness of youth, but since he's not then he would have to be an idiot to do this. And Apple don't hire idiots.

Osmose 16y ago
One does not have to be an idiot to be forgetful, or perhaps tipsy.
mkramlich 16y ago
I like how you imply that someone being in their late 20's would not do something that could be attributed to the foolishness of youth! Late 20's -- yeah that's practically the age of respected senior statesmen, the jaded world-weary traveller, the wise old man down the -- oh wait, wrong end of the spectrum. :) This is not a criticism on your post, just a humorous point about the subjective perception of age and maturity. I'm in my late 30's and definitely look back at my 20's as the decade where I was (a) an adult, technically, but also (b) still engaging in a lot of the foolishness of youth. I'm sure others would feel the same. One's 20's is that decade where you are an adult and yet still in many ways still like a teenager. Especially for folks that don't start having kids yet. On a separate point, I think the fact that he was entrusted with a super secret prototype AND then chose to bring it with him to a bar where alcohol drinking would be going on and lots of people in close proximity to his body, some strangers/non-coworkers, and possibly darkly lit, and so on, says there was some poor judgement going on by him. It may or may not have been a theft, but he is at least partly to blame because he could have taken different actions that would have prevented it from happening. On your point about Apple not hiring idiots: I bet even if Apple hires folks who are smart about engineering they are going to pick some who make poor choices when alcohol is involved. Logic goes out the window after a few shots of vodka and a glance from a pretty woman across the room. :)
dagw 16y ago
Late 20's is not old by any definition, and certainly doesn't make you "seasoned". And even if it was, age in no way makes you immune from being foolish, whether drunk or sober. Also being incredibly smart and brilliant in general doesn't preclude you from occasionally being an idiot.

joubert 16y ago

I doubt that abc, time, or san jose mercury news would knowingly buy stolen goods.