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I think safety is fine, especially in cities with not too crazy weather. It's more that if an autonomous car with no human stalls, due to a traffic light that'

I think safety is fine, especially in cities with not too crazy weather. It's more that if an autonomous car with no human stalls, due to a traffic light that's stopped working, or an oddly shaped plastic bag in the road, it's stuck, and would cause a traffic jam. Not sure how to resolve such a scenario, can't rely on someone remotely taking control, as mobile data doesn't have 100% coverage, so a human who is allowed access to the car would somehow need to get thorough the traffic jam to move the vehicle on. Can't think of an efficient way to resolve this situation.

jasonwatkinspdx 10y ago
First, some baselines: humans suck at driving too. Next, coverage isn't an all or nothing thing, it'd be quite easy for an autonomous uber like service to restrict itself to areas that permit remote control when cars need assistance. Last I'd encourage reading some of the literature behind what folks are doing: it's a very different sort of system, one that blends a lot of complex probability estimates. It's not like everyday coding where a human developer needs to anticipate every combination of corner cases.
- walrus1066 10y ago
  Machine learning tools also cannot cover corner cases, if they're not present in it's training data. Communication with human agents (other cars, police officers) is also extremely tough.
stormbrew 10y ago
It's not as if human driven cars never get stuck in an intersection. I imagine the solution will be much the same: it will be moved manually if possible or towed if not. If a person is deliberately fucking with traffic by deliberately messing with an autonomous car, they'll also probably be fined. I mean the other day on my daily commute there were two cars right in the middle of a freeway, one attempting to jump start the other and they were at it for a while. This is not shockingly new ground.

jasonwatkinspdx 10y ago

First, some baselines: humans suck at driving too. Next, coverage isn't an all or nothing thing, it'd be quite easy for an autonomous uber like service to restrict itself to areas that permit remote control when cars need assistance. Last I'd encourage reading some of the literature behind what folks are doing: it's a very different sort of system, one that blends a lot of complex probability estimates. It's not like everyday coding where a human developer needs to anticipate every combination of corner cases.

walrus1066 10y ago
Machine learning tools also cannot cover corner cases, if they're not present in it's training data. Communication with human agents (other cars, police officers) is also extremely tough.

stormbrew 10y ago

It's not as if human driven cars never get stuck in an intersection. I imagine the solution will be much the same: it will be moved manually if possible or towed if not. If a person is deliberately fucking with traffic by deliberately messing with an autonomous car, they'll also probably be fined. I mean the other day on my daily commute there were two cars right in the middle of a freeway, one attempting to jump start the other and they were at it for a while. This is not shockingly new ground.