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I use Facebook and owned a DK1 and DK2, but did not get the CV1 or continue to the use my DK2 because of the Facebook integration. I trust Facebook with the in

I use Facebook and owned a DK1 and DK2, but did not get the CV1 or continue to the use my DK2 because of the Facebook integration. I trust Facebook with the information I explicitly share with it, i.e., posting photos or comments on Facebook. I do not trust Facebook to have unfettered access to a microphone, camera, and activity just to be able to play a game. The Facebook integration was, well, integral, and not just an opt-in for enhancing social aspects. You can't use the headset to play local content without phoning home (short of using old drivers/OpenVR or something). Of course maybe this still places me in a minority of users because I have the same reaction when a mobile app requests every permission possible, which seems to be the case with all apps now.

seanwilson 10y ago
> I use Facebook and owned a DK1 and DK2, but did not get the CV1 or continue to the use my DK2 because of the Facebook integration. Fair enough, I care about privacy as well but I'm just pointing out you need to acknowledge most people aren't bothered by this. > I do not trust Facebook to have unfettered access to a microphone, camera, and activity just to be able to play a game. I'm curious: do you have Whatsapp or the Facebook app installed on your phone? Facebook could spy on you via this or Oculus but if they were found out it would be seriously damaging to the company.
peacelilly 10y ago
Just an FYI to anyone who didn't know this, the facebook app records audio in the background. It then targets ads to your conversations. Use the browser version if you want some semblance of privacy.
- sgrove 10y ago
  Do you have a source for this? It seems fairly unlikely for a lot of reasons.
marricks 10y ago
I own a CV1 and worry about the same things, actually. I unplug my cameras & rift when not in use, otherwise I'd literally have cameras pointing at my living room. Many many people don't give a crap though, I have friends with Alexas and Xbox kinects in their living room. Kinect cameras can actually see you much more clearly[1] than the obfuscated Oculus ones which mainly see IR. [1] some games have video replay on kinect, clear visualization of faces, etc

seanwilson 10y ago

> I use Facebook and owned a DK1 and DK2, but did not get the CV1 or continue to the use my DK2 because of the Facebook integration. Fair enough, I care about privacy as well but I'm just pointing out you need to acknowledge most people aren't bothered by this. > I do not trust Facebook to have unfettered access to a microphone, camera, and activity just to be able to play a game. I'm curious: do you have Whatsapp or the Facebook app installed on your phone? Facebook could spy on you via this or Oculus but if they were found out it would be seriously damaging to the company.

peacelilly 10y ago

Just an FYI to anyone who didn't know this, the facebook app records audio in the background. It then targets ads to your conversations. Use the browser version if you want some semblance of privacy.

sgrove 10y ago
Do you have a source for this? It seems fairly unlikely for a lot of reasons.

marricks 10y ago

I own a CV1 and worry about the same things, actually. I unplug my cameras & rift when not in use, otherwise I'd literally have cameras pointing at my living room. Many many people don't give a crap though, I have friends with Alexas and Xbox kinects in their living room. Kinect cameras can actually see you much more clearly[1] than the obfuscated Oculus ones which mainly see IR. [1] some games have video replay on kinect, clear visualization of faces, etc