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What do you hate about iOS10? The new Messages app annoys me, but otherwise it seems fine.

by monochromatic 10y ago

cocktailpeanuts 10y ago
Yes, the new Messages app annoys me.
- hasbroslasher 10y ago
  A lot of the time it seems like Apple just changes things on iOS just because, not because there's actually any tangible benefits to doing so. The UI changes for Messages iOS 10 is a perfect example - it feels cramped and complicated where it used to feel intuitive and easy to use.
  - cocktailpeanuts 10y ago
    I think this time it's different. In the past it may have been true. That's why a lot of people hated iOS7 just because it was different. But Apple's recent updates are all bad because the root cause goes up to how Apple is trying to push their own agenda--they want to become the "Services" company, because the wall street thinks their device growth has stalled. For example their stickers is an attempt to monetize their user base with app purchases. They don't care that people would rather be able to take a photo and send with one tap, because they know users have no choice anyway. But this is super short sighted, Apple's recent moves reminds me of how Windows lost significant size of their users with Vista and went downhill.
  - threeseed 10y ago
    Messages is a terrible example of that. In fact what you are talking about makes absolutely no sense. The reason the UI is designed this way is because they decided to cram 100 features in a space that simply can't accomodate it properly. Stickers, Apps, Photos, Animations etc all of that takes space.
    - hasbroslasher 10y ago
      Did you my point about it being complicated and cramped? It seems like you're saying the same thing, so please, don't come at me with this "makes absolutely no sense" hyperbole.
NasEscobar 10y ago
Messages is too busy now, there's too much going on in that app. It's a mess of sharing options and emoji.
- veidr 10y ago
  Messages is an utterly perfect, textbook example of software bloat. There are now so many garbage features, tangential to the core purpose of the app — self-deleting audio blips if you move the phone this way, internet GIF search if you swipe that way, weird drawing pad, stupid variable-location popup to add "HA HA HA" animation, recently-played music grid, full-screen-or-sometimes-not fingerpainting applet, image editor, heartbeat monitor, fucking kiss simulator (what the fuck), and I know from sorry experience (usually when trying to send a message with one hand while carrying something heavy and awkward) that there's more shit buried in here that I can't even figure out how to navigate to right now, like a signature editor — that I have had to help my dad, my wife, and my kids figure out how to get back to where send a fucking message with it, repeatedly. You could use iOS 10 Messages to create a 6-episode TV miniseries called Software Design Gone Horribly Fucking Wrong and surely win an Emmy award for best documentary.
  - cocktailpeanuts 10y ago
    Yeah, I really wonder who's in charge of this mess. Like I said somewhere else in this thread, all these new features are for Apple, not for users. If they designed it for users, they would have NEVER made it so that they have to tap twice to take a photo before sending. Not to mention how they don't even allow you to open the camera as fullscreen. Isn't it really ridiculous how nowadays when you want to take a quick picture and send it while messaging, you have to close the messages app, open the camera app, take the photo, and share it back to messages? Used to be: tap the camera button. Take the pic. Send.
    - benlovell 10y ago
      I'm not seeing this. I can take and send a picture directly from the messages app. Perhaps you need to grant access to your camera?
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cfstras 10y ago
In 1/10 cases, it takes me over 20 seconds to unlock my phone. The new "click twice to unlock" feature combined with apparently hard-to-detect fingerprints is really annoying.
- Terretta 10y ago
  You can change the setting back. https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/14/ios-10-how-to-hate-pressing-the-home-button-to-unlock-change-is-setting-on-touch-id-iphones-ipads/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/14/ios-10-how-to-hate-pressing-t...
  - cfstras 10y ago
    Wow, that is one hidden setting! Thanks!
- nicky0 10y ago
  You only have to click once because of raise to wake.
mnadkvlb 10y ago
I hate the control center. Its almost impossible to control the screen brightness. Whenever you try it, two-third of the time it takes me to the music control. It was something which was perfect in ios9. Atleast they could have given an option to choose if you don't want the separate music tab in the control center.
gurkendoktor 10y ago
Health: The iPhone 5s+ automatically counts my steps anyway, so I started entering my weight and blood pressure every few days. It felt really satisyfing to look at the Health dashboard every day. https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/ios8-health.jpg?w=1024&h=645 https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/ios8-he... In iOS 10, they've replaced the dashboard with huge colourful video thumbnails. It feels like a bad onboarding screen that just won't go away: https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2016/09/ios-10-health-activity-1.jpg?itok=kgjNpzfq https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/pu... I could probably buy (and trust!) third-party dashboards that use HealthKit. But instead I just stopped using Health. Chances of me getting an Apple Watch for health tracking: now zero, even if it was free. Game Center: I'm aware that people hated the old and the new design, but Apple didn't kill it, they moved the invitations functionality into (gasp) a Messages mini-app. Syncing your game progress between iOS devices is a hodgepodge of Facebook, iCloud, Game Center, and most commonly, "not at all". That's not going to change if Apple cares so little about its own frameworks.

What do you hate about iOS10? The new Messages app annoys me, but otherwise it seems fine.

cocktailpeanuts 10y ago

Yes, the new Messages app annoys me.

hasbroslasher 10y ago
A lot of the time it seems like Apple just changes things on iOS just because, not because there's actually any tangible benefits to doing so. The UI changes for Messages iOS 10 is a perfect example - it feels cramped and complicated where it used to feel intuitive and easy to use.
- cocktailpeanuts 10y ago
  I think this time it's different. In the past it may have been true. That's why a lot of people hated iOS7 just because it was different. But Apple's recent updates are all bad because the root cause goes up to how Apple is trying to push their own agenda--they want to become the "Services" company, because the wall street thinks their device growth has stalled. For example their stickers is an attempt to monetize their user base with app purchases. They don't care that people would rather be able to take a photo and send with one tap, because they know users have no choice anyway. But this is super short sighted, Apple's recent moves reminds me of how Windows lost significant size of their users with Vista and went downhill.
- threeseed 10y ago
  Messages is a terrible example of that. In fact what you are talking about makes absolutely no sense. The reason the UI is designed this way is because they decided to cram 100 features in a space that simply can't accomodate it properly. Stickers, Apps, Photos, Animations etc all of that takes space.
  - hasbroslasher 10y ago
    Did you my point about it being complicated and cramped? It seems like you're saying the same thing, so please, don't come at me with this "makes absolutely no sense" hyperbole.

NasEscobar 10y ago

Messages is too busy now, there's too much going on in that app. It's a mess of sharing options and emoji.

veidr 10y ago
Messages is an utterly perfect, textbook example of software bloat. There are now so many garbage features, tangential to the core purpose of the app — self-deleting audio blips if you move the phone this way, internet GIF search if you swipe that way, weird drawing pad, stupid variable-location popup to add "HA HA HA" animation, recently-played music grid, full-screen-or-sometimes-not fingerpainting applet, image editor, heartbeat monitor, fucking kiss simulator (what the fuck), and I know from sorry experience (usually when trying to send a message with one hand while carrying something heavy and awkward) that there's more shit buried in here that I can't even figure out how to navigate to right now, like a signature editor — that I have had to help my dad, my wife, and my kids figure out how to get back to where send a fucking message with it, repeatedly. You could use iOS 10 Messages to create a 6-episode TV miniseries called Software Design Gone Horribly Fucking Wrong and surely win an Emmy award for best documentary.
- cocktailpeanuts 10y ago
  Yeah, I really wonder who's in charge of this mess. Like I said somewhere else in this thread, all these new features are for Apple, not for users. If they designed it for users, they would have NEVER made it so that they have to tap twice to take a photo before sending. Not to mention how they don't even allow you to open the camera as fullscreen. Isn't it really ridiculous how nowadays when you want to take a quick picture and send it while messaging, you have to close the messages app, open the camera app, take the photo, and share it back to messages? Used to be: tap the camera button. Take the pic. Send.
  - benlovell 10y ago
    I'm not seeing this. I can take and send a picture directly from the messages app. Perhaps you need to grant access to your camera?

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cfstras 10y ago

In 1/10 cases, it takes me over 20 seconds to unlock my phone. The new "click twice to unlock" feature combined with apparently hard-to-detect fingerprints is really annoying.

Terretta 10y ago
You can change the setting back. https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/14/ios-10-how-to-hate-pressing-the-home-button-to-unlock-change-is-setting-on-touch-id-iphones-ipads/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/14/ios-10-how-to-hate-pressing-t...
- cfstras 10y ago
  Wow, that is one hidden setting! Thanks!
nicky0 10y ago
You only have to click once because of raise to wake.

mnadkvlb 10y ago

I hate the control center. Its almost impossible to control the screen brightness. Whenever you try it, two-third of the time it takes me to the music control. It was something which was perfect in ios9. Atleast they could have given an option to choose if you don't want the separate music tab in the control center.

gurkendoktor 10y ago

Health: The iPhone 5s+ automatically counts my steps anyway, so I started entering my weight and blood pressure every few days. It felt really satisyfing to look at the Health dashboard every day. https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/ios8-health.jpg?w=1024&h=645 https://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/ios8-he... In iOS 10, they've replaced the dashboard with huge colourful video thumbnails. It feels like a bad onboarding screen that just won't go away: https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/public/field/image/2016/09/ios-10-health-activity-1.jpg?itok=kgjNpzfq https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/xlarge/pu... I could probably buy (and trust!) third-party dashboards that use HealthKit. But instead I just stopped using Health. Chances of me getting an Apple Watch for health tracking: now zero, even if it was free. Game Center: I'm aware that people hated the old and the new design, but Apple didn't kill it, they moved the invitations functionality into (gasp) a Messages mini-app. Syncing your game progress between iOS devices is a hodgepodge of Facebook, iCloud, Game Center, and most commonly, "not at all". That's not going to change if Apple cares so little about its own frameworks.