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I will not buy a phone without a 3.5" jack period. I'm not buying ridiculously expensive wireless headphones that are objectively worse (worse quality than wire

by mgo 10y ago

I will not buy a phone without a 3.5" jack period. I'm not buying ridiculously expensive wireless headphones that are objectively worse (worse quality than wired alternatives, added hassle of charging them plus much more expensive).

rstupek 10y ago
I will not buy a computer without a 5" floppy drive. I will not buy a computer without a 3.5" floppy drive. I will not buy a computer without a CD drive etc. Seems Apple is just always ahead of the crowd in getting rid of things.
- tribby 10y ago
  this is a false analogy. the CD drive was an improvement on the 3.5" floppy. the 3.5" floppy was an improvement on the 5" floppy. bluetooth is an improvement in form (no more wires), but a downgrade in function as the audio quality is diminished.
  - neotek 10y ago
    I hear people saying this a lot, but I'd be willing to bet that at least 90% of consumers would be incapable of telling the difference between Bluetooth and wired audio in a blind test. Also, given that the vast majority of earbuds people use are sub-$20, I bet the audio quality isn't that great to begin with.
    - tribby 10y ago
      if 90% of consumers are incapable of telling the difference then why would apple use such an expensive DAC in their phone? I can't speak for everyone, but it's a pretty noticeable difference to me especially considering my hearing isn't very good to begin with.
      - neotek 10y ago
        Because (a) Apple doesn't like to half-arse things, and (b) Apple knows its consumer base includes people who like to use very expensive headphones.
    - brokenmachine 10y ago
      Not everyone uses crap headphones. Some people even use quality headphones, and also don't want another device to charge.
      - neotek 10y ago
        Cool, so use the free adapter.
        brokenmachine 10y ago
        Please explain to me how having to use a dongle that is inconvenient and will probably break or be lost an advantage over just having my good headphones plugged into a headphone jack? Anyway, I won't be buying a phone without a headphone jack, or these airpods.
neotek 10y ago
In a few short years you're probably going to find it hard to buy any phones then; Samsung is reportedly already planning to remove the headphone jack from their flagship phones.

by mgo 10y ago

rstupek 10y ago

I will not buy a computer without a 5" floppy drive. I will not buy a computer without a 3.5" floppy drive. I will not buy a computer without a CD drive etc. Seems Apple is just always ahead of the crowd in getting rid of things.

tribby 10y ago
this is a false analogy. the CD drive was an improvement on the 3.5" floppy. the 3.5" floppy was an improvement on the 5" floppy. bluetooth is an improvement in form (no more wires), but a downgrade in function as the audio quality is diminished.
- neotek 10y ago
  I hear people saying this a lot, but I'd be willing to bet that at least 90% of consumers would be incapable of telling the difference between Bluetooth and wired audio in a blind test. Also, given that the vast majority of earbuds people use are sub-$20, I bet the audio quality isn't that great to begin with.
  - tribby 10y ago
    if 90% of consumers are incapable of telling the difference then why would apple use such an expensive DAC in their phone? I can't speak for everyone, but it's a pretty noticeable difference to me especially considering my hearing isn't very good to begin with.
    - neotek 10y ago
      Because (a) Apple doesn't like to half-arse things, and (b) Apple knows its consumer base includes people who like to use very expensive headphones.
  - brokenmachine 10y ago
    Not everyone uses crap headphones. Some people even use quality headphones, and also don't want another device to charge.
    - neotek 10y ago
      Cool, so use the free adapter.
      - brokenmachine 10y ago
        Please explain to me how having to use a dongle that is inconvenient and will probably break or be lost an advantage over just having my good headphones plugged into a headphone jack? Anyway, I won't be buying a phone without a headphone jack, or these airpods.

neotek 10y ago

In a few short years you're probably going to find it hard to buy any phones then; Samsung is reportedly already planning to remove the headphone jack from their flagship phones.