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This is the conversational equivalent of "your feelings on the matter are irrelevant; suck it up, because I don't think it's so bad". Your opinion is duly noted

by logic 16y ago

This is the conversational equivalent of "your feelings on the matter are irrelevant; suck it up, because I don't think it's so bad". Your opinion is duly noted. For what it's worth, I haven't flown in over a year and a half, and have no intention of doing so until airport security returns to some semblance of sanity. I'm not being a "drama queen" about it; I simply won't pay an exorbitant rate for the privilege of being treated as a criminal because I'd like to board an airplane.

foldr 16y ago
> I'm not being a "drama queen" about it; I simply won't pay an exorbitant rate for the privilege of being treated as a criminal because I'd like to board an airplane. So, you don't think your second clause there has event a hint of hyperbole?
- logic 16y ago
  Not at all. The last few times I've flown (US to Canada and back again), I walked away from the experience feeling abused by the U.S. side of the transaction. You can choose to accept that or not, and can certainly write off my opinion as hyperbole if you'd like; that's your prerogative. But I don't believe I'm the only one who feels that way. (If the "exorbitant rate" portion is what you object to, see my reply elsewhere in the thread.)
  - foldr 16y ago
    What do you find international flights "exorbitant" with respect to? Cruise ships?
    - logic 16y ago
      Domestic flights. I'm flying to Canada, our land-based neighbor, not Australia. The additional cost is purely because of bureaucracy, not the least of which is our security theatrics.
      - foldr 16y ago
        Do you have any evidence that airport security costs are responsible for the higher prices?
wtn 16y ago
You can call air travel lots of things, but it's not exorbitantly expensive. NY to LA is $325 by train. It's 175 to 350 flying on Virgin America.
- dagw 16y ago
  Yea, last time I flew to Glasgow I literally paid more for the taxi to and from the airport than I did for my flight to and from Scotland.
- logic 16y ago
  Now, change your destination to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Canada). Or even Toronto or Vancouver. The price goes up very quickly, for a trip no longer than any many domestic flights. (My apologies, I should have specified continental "international" flights, as that's typically all I've ended up flying in the past, with the occasional exceptions for vacations.)

by logic 16y ago

foldr 16y ago

> I'm not being a "drama queen" about it; I simply won't pay an exorbitant rate for the privilege of being treated as a criminal because I'd like to board an airplane. So, you don't think your second clause there has event a hint of hyperbole?

logic 16y ago
Not at all. The last few times I've flown (US to Canada and back again), I walked away from the experience feeling abused by the U.S. side of the transaction. You can choose to accept that or not, and can certainly write off my opinion as hyperbole if you'd like; that's your prerogative. But I don't believe I'm the only one who feels that way. (If the "exorbitant rate" portion is what you object to, see my reply elsewhere in the thread.)
- foldr 16y ago
  What do you find international flights "exorbitant" with respect to? Cruise ships?
  - logic 16y ago
    Domestic flights. I'm flying to Canada, our land-based neighbor, not Australia. The additional cost is purely because of bureaucracy, not the least of which is our security theatrics.
    - foldr 16y ago
      Do you have any evidence that airport security costs are responsible for the higher prices?

wtn 16y ago

You can call air travel lots of things, but it's not exorbitantly expensive. NY to LA is $325 by train. It's 175 to 350 flying on Virgin America.

dagw 16y ago
Yea, last time I flew to Glasgow I literally paid more for the taxi to and from the airport than I did for my flight to and from Scotland.
logic 16y ago
Now, change your destination to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan (Canada). Or even Toronto or Vancouver. The price goes up very quickly, for a trip no longer than any many domestic flights. (My apologies, I should have specified continental "international" flights, as that's typically all I've ended up flying in the past, with the occasional exceptions for vacations.)