Sure, I do too. As I said exceptions exist. Existence of exceptions doesn't invalidate the broader pattern. Which group would you say is more likely to have mo

Sure, I do too. As I said exceptions exist. Existence of exceptions doesn't invalidate the broader pattern. Which group would you say is more likely to have more (current or one-day-to-be) programmers in it? A group of loud extroverted cheer leaders or the folks from the chess club? Virtually everyone would say the folks from the chess club. Except those who are self-conscious about being politically correct. Those would say they have NO IDEA! It's completely random. Maybe a few Linus Torvalds would come out of the cheer leading team. Look, I'm not arguing about specific cases and exceptions. I'm talking about the GENERAL pattern which exists and is the basis for the myriad of stereotypes that everyone is aware of.