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I'm actually very interested in the mathematical implication of score voting. Because in Indian elections - the world's largest elections - IRV is fairly imprac
by sandGorgon 10y ago
I'm actually very interested in the mathematical implication of score voting. Because in Indian elections - the world's largest elections - IRV is fairly impractical. We have constituencies with more than 10-15 candidates and the "recalculations" will kill the system. We also have very frequent recounts.
I'm still thinking of how to explain score voting to an illiterate voter. It requires a level of sophistication that is orders of magnitude more involved than a simple checkbox next to a candidate.
- grzm 10y agoI'm still thinking of how to explain score voting to an illiterate voter. It requires a level of sophistication that is orders of magnitude more involved than a simple checkbox next to a candidate. You've made a very important point. In tech we often talk about UX with apps and sometimes with consumer products, but not enough in my opinion in areas such as voting and paperwork.
- lotu 10y agoI think explaining score voting is pretty easy you just have only 3 categories labeled ️(1) (2) (3) for each candidate and they put a mark on what they think for each one. As an aside I susspect that having more than 3 or 4 catagoreis isn't a good idea and creates false precision that complicates things.
- sandGorgon 10y agois it 1,2,3 or 3,2,1? you underestimate interface design for a billion people in 20 different languages and in symbols that can be understood by illiterate citizens. fyi, election symbols (like lotus, bicycle, broom) are mandatory in Indian elections for people who cannot read. The American concept of voter registration is fairly puzzling.
- ClayShentrup 10y agohttp://scorevoting.net/Complexity http://scorevoting.net/Complexity
- ClayShentrup 10y agoYou want a zero based scale to avoid confusion, preferably with an even number of scores. 0-5 or 0-9 is good.
- ClayShentrup 10y agoIn 2006 I did a Score Voting exit poll on unsuspecting voters in _Beaumont, Texas_, and not a single one was confused. http://scorevoting.net/Beaumont http://scorevoting.net/Beaumont
- grzm 10y agoThanks for the link! Now I have more to read :)
- sandGorgon 10y agothis is for people who cant read or write. they dont know numbers. In India, such people identify the candidate using a mandatory election symbol (like a lotus, bicycle, etc) and put a checkbox next to them.
- imh 10y agoMaybe you can think of score voting as expressing differences between candidates. I think X is this many better than Y, but only this many better than Z. But yeah I like approval for the reason that I think score is complicated to think through the implications of.
- sandGorgon 10y agothat is condercet right? then you are asking people to do pairwise voting... which again breaks down in places with 10 candidates.
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- bluecaribou 10y agoAs I explained in my other comment, that doesn't have to be a problem. Just let everyone vote with a traditional "single choice" ballot. But you also allow the voter to optionally enhance/refine their preference with a score ballot. If a voter chooses not fill out a score ballot, their "single choice" ballot will be automatically converted into the corresponding score ballot. Their vote won't count any less. It will just be a (likely) less complete representation of their actual preferences.
- caspianm 10y agoIn Australia we have the option of voting for someone as our first preference, and letting them direct your lower preferences for after they get eliminated (according to their previously published preference list). If you made that the only option, you'd just need to count the votes for each candidate, then any further calculations could be based on these totals.