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> Second, Opendoor explicitly charges sellers for having replaced total uncertainty with a bank wire: not just the same 6% that typically goes for buyer and sel
by CN7R 10y ago
> Second, Opendoor explicitly charges sellers for having replaced total uncertainty with a bank wire: not just the same 6% that typically goes for buyer and seller agent fees, but also an additional 0-6% for “market risk” — i.e. dealing with the uncertainty of actually showing and selling the house — along with the aforementioned repair costs.
So basically, the seller is guaranteed to lose 6-12% (on average 8%) of the value of their home even before receiving a paycheck. Why can't OpenDoor start low, instead of starting high and waiting for economies of scale? I just don't see the marginal benefits worth the extra costs, and am not sure how OpenDoor can stay competitive enough with those rates.
> To succeed, it has to price the homes it buys accurately, without seeing them, and it has to sell them quickly to minimize the costs of carrying them.
I feel like if the people behind OpenDoor can do this, then they can do day-trading or at least an index fund. (Yeah I know, stocks are more volatile and housing is pretty much guaranteed to rise.)
> for too long too much money and talent has been poured into low-risk digital-only businesses
What? Isn't there hardware startups?
Ok overall, I think I'm being a bit too critical on this company because all I see is house-flipping disguised as "theoretical arbitrage opportunity". I'd rather see a new company solve the housing crisis in San Francisco and New York.
- pbreit 10y agoWhy would you say "lose 6-12%"? The first 6 is normal real estate fee. Above that it's a normal arbitrage of house flipping (buyer thinks can spiff it up and sell it for more a short time later).
- brianwawok 10y agoNot everyone pays 6, You can get 5 or lower depending on your market.
- jdross 10y agoNat'l avg is 5.5% and trending up. In most tier 2 markets, the vast majority pay 6%.
- brianwawok 10y agoRedfin is 4.5 for example https://www.redfin.com/sell-a-home/how-you-save https://www.redfin.com/sell-a-home/how-you-save
- CN7R 10y agoYeah, 6% for a normal real estate fee is still high IMO.