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I certainly agree that it's ethical. As far as practicality goes, demanding payment will invariably amount to refusing the review assignment. I don't have any

I certainly agree that it's ethical. As far as practicality goes, demanding payment will invariably amount to refusing the review assignment. I don't have any problem with that, but I don't believe that any publishers will be willing to meet such a demand.

Ericson2314 10y ago
Sure. In practice it's just a spin on the boycott.
tdb7893 10y ago
Can you explain to me why academics will spend their time reviewing journals without the expectation of getting paid? I would never accept work where they weren't planning on paying me
- lultimouomo 10y ago
  Academics do get paid, and reviews are usually considered part of their work duties. Publishers have simply managed to externalize the cost of reviews (and authorship) to universities, i.e. to students in the case of private university, and to students and states in the case of public ones.
  - tdb7893 10y ago
    Coming from working in business it seems kinda weird that they have outsourced not only creating the content but also reviewing the content for free. I wonder why the journals are so expensive when they seem to get a large part of the work for free.
    - inimino 10y ago
      Because they are entrenched, they publish all the "prestigious" journals, and academics haven't collectively walked away yet.
08-15 10y ago
I'm sure no commercial publisher will agree. But there is still a difference between "I will not review because I don't feel like it" and "I will not review unless I get paid for it". They send different messages to both the publisher and the scientific community. By the way, feel free to provide your reviewing services for non-profit or open-access journal. Just please, pretty please, don't collaborate with publishers who demand to be paid for a service they don't even provide. And point out that is the publisher who is freeloading, not the researcher who merely refuses to work for free.

Ericson2314 10y ago

Sure. In practice it's just a spin on the boycott.

tdb7893 10y ago

Can you explain to me why academics will spend their time reviewing journals without the expectation of getting paid? I would never accept work where they weren't planning on paying me

lultimouomo 10y ago
Academics do get paid, and reviews are usually considered part of their work duties. Publishers have simply managed to externalize the cost of reviews (and authorship) to universities, i.e. to students in the case of private university, and to students and states in the case of public ones.
- tdb7893 10y ago
  Coming from working in business it seems kinda weird that they have outsourced not only creating the content but also reviewing the content for free. I wonder why the journals are so expensive when they seem to get a large part of the work for free.
  - inimino 10y ago
    Because they are entrenched, they publish all the "prestigious" journals, and academics haven't collectively walked away yet.

08-15 10y ago

I'm sure no commercial publisher will agree. But there is still a difference between "I will not review because I don't feel like it" and "I will not review unless I get paid for it". They send different messages to both the publisher and the scientific community. By the way, feel free to provide your reviewing services for non-profit or open-access journal. Just please, pretty please, don't collaborate with publishers who demand to be paid for a service they don't even provide. And point out that is the publisher who is freeloading, not the researcher who merely refuses to work for free.