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If we are living in a simulation, it is a simulation of atoms, or quantum fields, or perhaps something deeper behind that. That got started with enormous energy
by ozy 10y ago
If we are living in a simulation, it is a simulation of atoms, or quantum fields, or perhaps something deeper behind that. That got started with enormous energy in the form of hot dense quark gluon plasma. From there the rest follows.
It is not a simulation of humans.
We have zero indication there are rules at a higher level than the quantum or gravity. Like rules on what you ought to do in the bedroom.
Also earth nor humans were created by intelligence, just like how mineral crystals or fjords are not created by intelligence.
Hence we must conclude that bronze/iron age religions and maybe living in a simulator are not the same thing.
For the rest of this question of a creator, we cannot know, anybody claiming to know anything beyond "perhaps" or "maybe" is a fool, or will win a nobel price. By lack of the latter the rest of us will assume the first.
- DougN7 10y agoYou're taking some mighty large liberties defining what our simulation is, and how it started. A simulation can begin with any state, including a hundred years ago with already written books and simulated Big Bang background radiation. There is no difference.
- ozy 10y agoBeings that find themselves in a universe that was created a minute ago but looks old, would be correct when they conclude it looks old. Anything else is unknowable and can not be used to further any theories. Especially when such ideas are grounded in bronze age thinking. "There is no difference." Indeed, if god exists or not, there is no difference ...
- DougN7 10y agoWell, there is no difference now. If someone has a big power button, or wants to inject things into the simulation later, or hold a final judgement, that will definitely matter. Not that we can stop it from happening either way. But perhaps we can please the Sim master...?
- ozy 10y agoIf we could have knowledge of such things, maybe. But what if it turns out this is a simulation by some extremist party, who want to see how to stack people against each other using religion? In that case we would owe it to the people there in the real world that we don't ... Plus you can rest assured that that the sim master himself lives in a simulated universe, somebody else will hold his big button. Buttons all the way down. From the pit of unknowable things, people can dredge up any coherent story. They might believe it themselves or convince others. Fine when it offers some kind of solace or perspective on life. Not fine when it costs people their freedom or their live.