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>That thing is regression analysis to a large power. Constantly calculating minimal cost to self preservation and better versions of itself Edited: That doesn
by posterboy 10y ago
>That thing is regression analysis to a large power. Constantly calculating minimal cost to self preservation and better versions of itself
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That doesn't sound very articulate, hence doubtful. Your interpretation is just that, recognizing already known patterns. Does that relate to the evolutionary "purpose" from the title? The implicit idea of order ("better") is largely based on the temporal succession of what, as far as I can tell, is indistinguishable from randomness, because it relies on random mutation and other genetic variation moduli. What existential property this really optimizes for is open.
The crux is, existence itself is hardly a logical property. I mean, "exist to exist" really is not a new revelation. It's philosophically akin to "I think therefore I am", but trivially speaking, that's just the pattern recognition at work.
- socmag 10y agoIt's highly rational. Reduce Entropy. Period
- posterboy 10y agoDoesn't mean you should write your comment by the same principle. Reducing entropy by growing more complex seems counterintuitive. I don't see rationality in the chaos. I don't even see what your "It" is. Attribution of rational reason to an "it" seems like a short cut leading to a domain error. Ultimately this leads to discussion about free will and what not, for which a short-lived discussion does indeed not seem to be the right format.
- socmag 10y agoWell Hacker News is definitely not the medium for this discussion, I'll grant you that. It's not clear to me where is a better choice. Could go for phys.org or stackoverflow I guess, but equally inane. Nobody likes to talk about metaphysics, which is what this is really about I guess. For good reason I suppose. Then again, before Darwin and Einstein, everything was very clear. Right now very rational people are looking into string theory, pilot wave theory, simulated universes and a heck of a lot more. Meanwhile, we are attempting to build self driving cars, automated systems that tempt us to buy crap we don't need and reduce the planet to a winner takes all philosophy. Nothing about that seems "Human" Entertain me on why the universe isn't trying to build its own god. Happy to take the discussion elsewhere.
- posterboy 10y agoI am not going to entertain you on that. Nevermind I can't tell how serious you are because written text loses a lot of context, I'm just not going to tempt you when you introduced the whole idea saying you are tired of atheist arguments. Let's say I am a skeptic and if you make extraordinary claims, they better had been convincing. I'll give you that "exist to exist", or an autonym god, for lack of a better word, seems to be a logical fix-point, which is notable given the name Y Combinator. At that point I want to quote wikipedia, which would mean I am out of my waters and shouldn't be baiting for someone to correct my ad-hoc interpretation. All that to say, this argument is trite indeed.
- socmag 10y agoExist to exist? I'm certainly not saying that. The point of existence is to create something more coherent. Fields form particles, particles form atoms, atoms form molecules, molecules form cells, cells form beings, beings form collectives, collectives form unions. Look to history on that one. Like you said, it is nothing new, just a fact. Currently it seems the Genome has rather large ambitions than "meat". It needs a transitional jump to future existence. To me it looks like it is doing that pretty damn well.
- socmag 10y agoTo continue... Wouldn't you like to teach the younger generation something so that they can survive better in the current world? Where the heck does that come from? The Genome