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In essence, they are the same thing, but Darwinists won't admit this because "religion". Heck, just bringing up the thought got you downvoted.

• skc 10y ago
  > but Darwinists won't admit this because "religion". I don't see how that follows. "Religion" doesn't just make the claim that there is a creator and leaves it at that. In fact I'd have more respect for religion if it did.
  • Cyph0n 10y ago
    What I mean is that Darwinism's extreme anti-religion stance means that it won't accept any idea that even has a tiny whiff of creationism. This is why some Darwinists are going with the simulation argument to address the shortcomings of the theory. Take a look at the kind of criticism the ID movement has been getting. Their whole argument is that "something" must have designed the universe. They do not explicitly argue for a God, and some proponents even accept the simulation argument! Nonetheless, Darwinisim wouldn't touch ID with a 60-foot stick.