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Yeah, and then one of those hobbies becomes essentially full-time, and then you realize it has some marketable value, then next thing you know you're running a

by stult 10y ago

Yeah, and then one of those hobbies becomes essentially full-time, and then you realize it has some marketable value, then next thing you know you're running a start up, completing the cycle of never-not-working-for-long.

jaggederest 10y ago
What's the difference between a job and a hobby? The answer is, extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation.
- user5994461 10y ago
  I thought the difference was being paid.
- tedmiston 10y ago
  (sustainable) profit
- ikeyany 10y ago
  Extrinsic motivation is intrinsic motivation that you project onto an outside agent. You're not motivated by a job's salary, you're motivated by the nice things you can do with money--things you decided are intrinsically more important than the things you can do while broke.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >You're not motivated by a job's salary, you're motivated by the nice things you can do with money--things you decided are intrinsically more important than the things you can do while broke. We're not talking about the same kind of motivation, obviously. We're talking about motivation in the work itself vs being motivated to work because of others things you want to do with the money. To make it an extreme example, in the first case you'd do the work even for free, or even pay to do it (like many people pay to do some hobbies), even if you had all the money you need.
serg_chernata 10y ago
That would be cool, but as a counter-point I'd like to say that financial independence would probably allow me to work on more outlandish ideas and things that will never earn a dollar.
- wiz21c 10y ago
  Question : is this because you like to work on "outlandish things that will never earn a dollar" that you actually never earned a dollar ? :-)
benibela 10y ago
Unless the marketable value is too low and does not cover the start-up costs. In Germany for example health care insurance for start-up founders costs like 200€/month more than for unemployed (assuming they have savings and low income), because they set this fee by law and people do not like rich business owners there. Or last week a court decided that commercial webpages must not link to potential illegal sites and it is their responsibility to check if it illegal, e.g. if the other site contains a CC-ND photo that was modified. From your hobby webpage you can link to it as you please, but if it is a start-up webpage you can get sued for 6000€, even if you do not know there is that photo.

by stult 10y ago

jaggederest 10y ago

What's the difference between a job and a hobby? The answer is, extrinsic vs intrinsic motivation.

user5994461 10y ago
I thought the difference was being paid.
tedmiston 10y ago
(sustainable) profit
ikeyany 10y ago
Extrinsic motivation is intrinsic motivation that you project onto an outside agent. You're not motivated by a job's salary, you're motivated by the nice things you can do with money--things you decided are intrinsically more important than the things you can do while broke.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >You're not motivated by a job's salary, you're motivated by the nice things you can do with money--things you decided are intrinsically more important than the things you can do while broke. We're not talking about the same kind of motivation, obviously. We're talking about motivation in the work itself vs being motivated to work because of others things you want to do with the money. To make it an extreme example, in the first case you'd do the work even for free, or even pay to do it (like many people pay to do some hobbies), even if you had all the money you need.

serg_chernata 10y ago

That would be cool, but as a counter-point I'd like to say that financial independence would probably allow me to work on more outlandish ideas and things that will never earn a dollar.

wiz21c 10y ago
Question : is this because you like to work on "outlandish things that will never earn a dollar" that you actually never earned a dollar ? :-)

benibela 10y ago

Unless the marketable value is too low and does not cover the start-up costs. In Germany for example health care insurance for start-up founders costs like 200€/month more than for unemployed (assuming they have savings and low income), because they set this fee by law and people do not like rich business owners there. Or last week a court decided that commercial webpages must not link to potential illegal sites and it is their responsibility to check if it illegal, e.g. if the other site contains a CC-ND photo that was modified. From your hobby webpage you can link to it as you please, but if it is a start-up webpage you can get sued for 6000€, even if you do not know there is that photo.