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Wow, why did you catch flack for mentioning the JRE?

by erichmond 10y ago

DanBC 10y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12557489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12557489
- withdavidli 10y ago
  somewhat understandable why people have this view of him and his show. he let's his guests go on about what they think. it's usually a 3hr show. this gives people the perception that he believes in whatever they're saying because he doesn't interrupt his guests all the time. imo Joe is very open minded, an avg Joe (had to) that is willing to hear people out and is fair handed in contrasting opinions. listening to the one with him, hannibal burris, and sam harris shows that he tries to take emotion out of argument and see where each person is coming from. but other times he'll just repeat things what he has heard other guests has said. for instance drugs that clogs up the blood for bicyclists when he had lance armstrong on. i wouldn't say his show is scientifically dense though. that really depends on the guest. so when you have a person like rhonda on, yea her field is science and it's going to be dense in that subject matter.
  - sigmar 10y ago
    Isn't giving over airtime on your own show somewhat an endorsement? If you're giving them free advertising, you should probably at least spend some time vetting their credibility. Seems irresponsible to give a platform to moon landing truthers.
    - colordrops 10y ago
      Moon landing truthers get pretty much almost no time with anyone of consequence, so they are already well black listed. Rogan at least lets you see what is inside of the minds of these people, which is fascinating in itself. No subject, no matter how distasteful or apparently false, should be completely eradicated from the human dialog, even if only to reconfirm your distaste for it.
      - melloclello 10y ago
        I kinda have a soft spot for ol' Joe Rogan and I see him hosting moon landing theorists on his show as not unlike Louis Theroux doing a show about UFO nuts. Interestingly enough Rogan did have Theroux on his show once, I was hoping it would be a good interview but it went really badly.
    - superbaconman 10y ago
      Well every major and minor news source in the US gave air time to a climate change denier, birther, and vaccination sceptic. I mean in the grand scheme of things, the JRE is nothing and IMO some of these guests put forth great ideas I would have never considered. Speaking to this article, I'd be interested to hear if any research has explicitly set out to verify the "long telomeres cause cancer" claim.
- busterarm 10y ago
  Oh hey, I remember that thread! I was supportive, at least.
cyphreak 10y ago
HN (l)users typically veer to the ctrl-left. Rational thought threatens their narratives.
glibgil 10y ago
Jamie, see if you can pull that up
PerfectElement 10y ago
I could never get into it because of his personal beef against veganism (no pun intended). I think it started when the guys who made Cowspiracy went to his show. After that he went on a mission to find every piece of pseudoscience or blog post that said the animal industry is actually good for the environment, or that plants have feelings, or that vegans were unhealthy, and then went on a Twitter rage against vegans. It was pretty clear that his open-mindedness was quite limited. The sad thing is that a lot of people think he is a reliable source of information.
- metamet 10y ago
  One thing to remember about Joe's perspective on veganism is that he is a hunter and public figure, so he has attracted attention from militant vegans. While he has vegan friends and doesn't seem to really care what people eat, he's vocal with his annoyance with that particular subset. Plus he's a comedian, so you can't take anything he says personally. On a side note, I'm still waiting to hear some hard science on the affects veganism (which clearly doesn't include The China Study). If the right person were out there, I'd be curious to hear them on JRE.

Wow, why did you catch flack for mentioning the JRE?

DanBC 10y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12557489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12557489

withdavidli 10y ago
somewhat understandable why people have this view of him and his show. he let's his guests go on about what they think. it's usually a 3hr show. this gives people the perception that he believes in whatever they're saying because he doesn't interrupt his guests all the time. imo Joe is very open minded, an avg Joe (had to) that is willing to hear people out and is fair handed in contrasting opinions. listening to the one with him, hannibal burris, and sam harris shows that he tries to take emotion out of argument and see where each person is coming from. but other times he'll just repeat things what he has heard other guests has said. for instance drugs that clogs up the blood for bicyclists when he had lance armstrong on. i wouldn't say his show is scientifically dense though. that really depends on the guest. so when you have a person like rhonda on, yea her field is science and it's going to be dense in that subject matter.
- sigmar 10y ago
  Isn't giving over airtime on your own show somewhat an endorsement? If you're giving them free advertising, you should probably at least spend some time vetting their credibility. Seems irresponsible to give a platform to moon landing truthers.
  - colordrops 10y ago
    Moon landing truthers get pretty much almost no time with anyone of consequence, so they are already well black listed. Rogan at least lets you see what is inside of the minds of these people, which is fascinating in itself. No subject, no matter how distasteful or apparently false, should be completely eradicated from the human dialog, even if only to reconfirm your distaste for it.
    - melloclello 10y ago
      I kinda have a soft spot for ol' Joe Rogan and I see him hosting moon landing theorists on his show as not unlike Louis Theroux doing a show about UFO nuts. Interestingly enough Rogan did have Theroux on his show once, I was hoping it would be a good interview but it went really badly.
  - superbaconman 10y ago
    Well every major and minor news source in the US gave air time to a climate change denier, birther, and vaccination sceptic. I mean in the grand scheme of things, the JRE is nothing and IMO some of these guests put forth great ideas I would have never considered. Speaking to this article, I'd be interested to hear if any research has explicitly set out to verify the "long telomeres cause cancer" claim.
busterarm 10y ago
Oh hey, I remember that thread! I was supportive, at least.

cyphreak 10y ago

HN (l)users typically veer to the ctrl-left. Rational thought threatens their narratives.

glibgil 10y ago

Jamie, see if you can pull that up

PerfectElement 10y ago

I could never get into it because of his personal beef against veganism (no pun intended). I think it started when the guys who made Cowspiracy went to his show. After that he went on a mission to find every piece of pseudoscience or blog post that said the animal industry is actually good for the environment, or that plants have feelings, or that vegans were unhealthy, and then went on a Twitter rage against vegans. It was pretty clear that his open-mindedness was quite limited. The sad thing is that a lot of people think he is a reliable source of information.

metamet 10y ago
One thing to remember about Joe's perspective on veganism is that he is a hunter and public figure, so he has attracted attention from militant vegans. While he has vegan friends and doesn't seem to really care what people eat, he's vocal with his annoyance with that particular subset. Plus he's a comedian, so you can't take anything he says personally. On a side note, I'm still waiting to hear some hard science on the affects veganism (which clearly doesn't include The China Study). If the right person were out there, I'd be curious to hear them on JRE.