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"try to avoid buying devices that will slow down to point of being unusable as NAND wears out (ala Nexus 7, Nexus 6)" Has anyone experienced this issue with th

"try to avoid buying devices that will slow down to point of being unusable as NAND wears out (ala Nexus 7, Nexus 6)" Has anyone experienced this issue with their Nexus 6? My phone is more than 2 years old and I have no noticeable slowdown. The pixel might have the slower storage option but it has no effect on usability. From what I have read its UI performance is the best of any Android phone yet. "The Pixels are fast — noticeably faster than Samsung's Galaxy S7. On performance alone, these are easily the best Android phones you can buy." http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/18/13304090/google-pixel-phone-review-pixel-xl http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/18/13304090/google-pixel-pho...

discordianfish 10y ago
I've got a Nexus 5x and the performance was disappointing from the start. But maybe it just feels like that because I came from an iphone 5s.
- Grazester 10y ago
  Oh no buddy the Nexus 5x had some issues when initially released. Google did work these issues out though
lanestp 10y ago
Actually, yes. At work we have a Nexus 6 testing device. It started off strong but a few months ago it started lagging badly on videos. It even struggles with gif length mp4s. The problem is notable because it is the only phone with this problem. Even our old Galaxy S4 performs better.
- Grazester 10y ago
  What kind of videos? Do you have a link perhaps where I could test this?
  - lanestp 10y ago
    Giphys and rewarded video ads. We are a gaming company so you can see where our priorities lie!
- compuguy 10y ago
  My old Nexus 6 had similar issues, but then the wifi chip failed and I had it rma'ed. The camera fails as well when I try to autofocus. It seems like Nexus devices are somewhat plagued with issues. I'm knocking on wood that Google/HTC get it right with the Pixel.
VLM 10y ago
This slowly happened to my original nexus 7 tablet. Sad. Eventually its just too slow to use. Ten minutes or longer to bootup, etc. Of course its a gamble, will people crack the screen or kill the battery before the memory is destroyed, if so who cares ship it. You can play games for awhile stripping stuff out of memory so it can live in the fast area but eventually its speed drops to approximately zero even if all you have installed is the kindle app at which point I tossed it. There is a lot of cargo cult about there about wiping the cache over and over supposedly helps in the sense that the owner feels they're doing something, although all they're doing is wasting the last few R/W cycles left.
- syntheticnature 10y ago
  The original, 2012 Nexus 7 was particularly bad on that front, a few searches turn up that apparently particularly bad hardware selections were made for the NAND. Not saying that this means all later products have this issue licked, just that the original Nexus 7 is a known awful case.
- ehosca 10y ago
  so this is whats going on with my N7... it got slower and slower...
vittore 10y ago
I have to wipe out my nexus 6 every couple of months for it to be bearable. My last experiment took me to franco.Kernel and that have proven itself good during last couple of months, but I'll keep watching.
- Grazester 10y ago
  I want to say that unless you have a bunch of apps wrecking in the background then the whole wiping your phone every couple months and seeing a difference is all placebo effect to me. At least now(since 4.3)
  - Karunamon 10y ago
    It's not really placebo effect when you can get a stopwatch and time how long it takes to boot, unlock the phone, finish starting an app, and so on. I had this exact phone, and the wipes took a measurable amount of time off of all these things.
JBReefer 10y ago
I certainly have - I just replaced my Nexus 6 with a Moto G4, which somehow seems faster with the exact same set of apps and prefs. As an aside, having a phone that costs $150 is sort of amazing. It's removes the fetishism of "oh god, what if this breaks?" that I had with my iPhones and Nexii. It's a new and interesting feature that isn't discussed enough.
bwat48 10y ago
My nexus 7 became utterly unusable over time, even after a complete factory reset. The only way I was able to make it remotely usable was to install an old version of cyanogen mod and install only bare minimum apps.
Yhippa 10y ago
I perked up when I read this part of the article. I've had my Nexus 6 for nearly two full years and it's not fun to use. Very laggy and I missed many moments because the camera wouldn't load. I ended up getting a Pixel and I'm worried that in a year I'll see this same phenomenon again.
- Grazester 10y ago
  Seriously. Am I doing something wrong(or right)? I have never experienced any slowdown on any of my newer model Android phones.

discordianfish 10y ago

I've got a Nexus 5x and the performance was disappointing from the start. But maybe it just feels like that because I came from an iphone 5s.

Grazester 10y ago
Oh no buddy the Nexus 5x had some issues when initially released. Google did work these issues out though

lanestp 10y ago

Actually, yes. At work we have a Nexus 6 testing device. It started off strong but a few months ago it started lagging badly on videos. It even struggles with gif length mp4s. The problem is notable because it is the only phone with this problem. Even our old Galaxy S4 performs better.

Grazester 10y ago
What kind of videos? Do you have a link perhaps where I could test this?
- lanestp 10y ago
  Giphys and rewarded video ads. We are a gaming company so you can see where our priorities lie!
compuguy 10y ago
My old Nexus 6 had similar issues, but then the wifi chip failed and I had it rma'ed. The camera fails as well when I try to autofocus. It seems like Nexus devices are somewhat plagued with issues. I'm knocking on wood that Google/HTC get it right with the Pixel.

VLM 10y ago

This slowly happened to my original nexus 7 tablet. Sad. Eventually its just too slow to use. Ten minutes or longer to bootup, etc. Of course its a gamble, will people crack the screen or kill the battery before the memory is destroyed, if so who cares ship it. You can play games for awhile stripping stuff out of memory so it can live in the fast area but eventually its speed drops to approximately zero even if all you have installed is the kindle app at which point I tossed it. There is a lot of cargo cult about there about wiping the cache over and over supposedly helps in the sense that the owner feels they're doing something, although all they're doing is wasting the last few R/W cycles left.

syntheticnature 10y ago
The original, 2012 Nexus 7 was particularly bad on that front, a few searches turn up that apparently particularly bad hardware selections were made for the NAND. Not saying that this means all later products have this issue licked, just that the original Nexus 7 is a known awful case.
ehosca 10y ago
so this is whats going on with my N7... it got slower and slower...

vittore 10y ago

I have to wipe out my nexus 6 every couple of months for it to be bearable. My last experiment took me to franco.Kernel and that have proven itself good during last couple of months, but I'll keep watching.

Grazester 10y ago
I want to say that unless you have a bunch of apps wrecking in the background then the whole wiping your phone every couple months and seeing a difference is all placebo effect to me. At least now(since 4.3)
- Karunamon 10y ago
  It's not really placebo effect when you can get a stopwatch and time how long it takes to boot, unlock the phone, finish starting an app, and so on. I had this exact phone, and the wipes took a measurable amount of time off of all these things.

JBReefer 10y ago

I certainly have - I just replaced my Nexus 6 with a Moto G4, which somehow seems faster with the exact same set of apps and prefs. As an aside, having a phone that costs $150 is sort of amazing. It's removes the fetishism of "oh god, what if this breaks?" that I had with my iPhones and Nexii. It's a new and interesting feature that isn't discussed enough.

bwat48 10y ago

My nexus 7 became utterly unusable over time, even after a complete factory reset. The only way I was able to make it remotely usable was to install an old version of cyanogen mod and install only bare minimum apps.

Yhippa 10y ago

I perked up when I read this part of the article. I've had my Nexus 6 for nearly two full years and it's not fun to use. Very laggy and I missed many moments because the camera wouldn't load. I ended up getting a Pixel and I'm worried that in a year I'll see this same phenomenon again.

Grazester 10y ago
Seriously. Am I doing something wrong(or right)? I have never experienced any slowdown on any of my newer model Android phones.