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Think to have a car, that Google is tracking all time (just for your own security) haha - What a "Orwellian" dream life we gonna have. Cannot wait google to go

by mikebay 10y ago

Think to have a car, that Google is tracking all time (just for your own security) haha - What a "Orwellian" dream life we gonna have. Cannot wait google to go on medicine also. Then we all can use pills from google. But what will happend to your car, your medicine and your home, if you dare to be opinionated away from mainstream ? - what a nightmare!

kuschku 10y ago
This is written very confrontational, but worth a discussion, so I vouched for it: Google has been known to lock users out of all their services if they are believed to have violated the ToS of even one service. Having self-driving cars from Google integrated into the same ecosystem could have serious repercussions for users, so is this wise? Do we need legal changes, or should Google just change their model for locking out users? Forcing companies to serve users isn't really an option either, but Taxis have to do that — how can we solve these issues in a realistic way?
- adrianN 10y ago
  don't leave all the research to private companies. fund public research, make results free, increase competition.
  - kefka 10y ago
    We do fund public research. It is then considered the "property" of the university, which is sold as IPR to the highest bidder to make money for the university. It is also summarily locked behind academic paywalls but there are some solutions to that (icanhazpdf , scihub). We just fail on everything else in that sentence: make results free, and increase competition. Things might change if those laws were revoked, turning public universities back to the public, and then funding them appropriately. 30% tax funding is not "funding"... Let the privates do what they want.
    - dexterdog 10y ago
      Is there a truly private quality university? When I say private, I mean one that is not considered a non-profit and thus pays no taxes on the piles of money it rakes in.
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  >Having self-driving cars from Google integrated into the same ecosystem could have serious repercussions for users, so is this wise? Do we need legal changes, or should Google just change their model for locking out users? Break them up, and force the patents to be openly available for a nominal fee (like the patent on the transistor once was). Refuse to license a self-driving car for street use if a centralized firm, rather than the car's owner, can decide how it's used.

by mikebay 10y ago

kuschku 10y ago

This is written very confrontational, but worth a discussion, so I vouched for it: Google has been known to lock users out of all their services if they are believed to have violated the ToS of even one service. Having self-driving cars from Google integrated into the same ecosystem could have serious repercussions for users, so is this wise? Do we need legal changes, or should Google just change their model for locking out users? Forcing companies to serve users isn't really an option either, but Taxis have to do that — how can we solve these issues in a realistic way?

adrianN 10y ago
don't leave all the research to private companies. fund public research, make results free, increase competition.
- kefka 10y ago
  We do fund public research. It is then considered the "property" of the university, which is sold as IPR to the highest bidder to make money for the university. It is also summarily locked behind academic paywalls but there are some solutions to that (icanhazpdf , scihub). We just fail on everything else in that sentence: make results free, and increase competition. Things might change if those laws were revoked, turning public universities back to the public, and then funding them appropriately. 30% tax funding is not "funding"... Let the privates do what they want.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    Is there a truly private quality university? When I say private, I mean one that is not considered a non-profit and thus pays no taxes on the piles of money it rakes in.
eli_gottlieb 10y ago
>Having self-driving cars from Google integrated into the same ecosystem could have serious repercussions for users, so is this wise? Do we need legal changes, or should Google just change their model for locking out users? Break them up, and force the patents to be openly available for a nominal fee (like the patent on the transistor once was). Refuse to license a self-driving car for street use if a centralized firm, rather than the car's owner, can decide how it's used.