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Increase fats? No biggie, you'll get satiated too fast to overconsume. Increase proteins? You satiate even faster. Increase sugar? You will eat a lot more

Increase fats? No biggie, you'll get satiated too fast to overconsume. Increase proteins? You satiate even faster. Increase sugar? You will eat a lot more and your leptin signal gets all sorts of messed up.

iopq 10y ago
That's not true, some people can eat a lot of cheese. http://www.irkitated.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/eat-block-of-cheese.jpg http://www.irkitated.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/eat-bloc... Things are not as simple as "don't eat sugar"
- randomdata 10y ago
  To be fair, cheese usually contains sugar.
  - iopq 10y ago
    Very little. Even most lactose-intolerant people can eat a little bit of cheese. Aged cheese contains only trace amounts because all of the lactose has been processed by bacteria at that point.
    - dogma1138 10y ago
      Processed cheese like that block of cheese in the meme contains quite a bit of sugar it's added to make it "taste better".
      - iopq 10y ago
        They also don't age it properly, they usually only age it for 18 months or less to realize the return on investment sooner.
        dogma1138 10y ago
        thats a give for mass produced cheese and other things like wine, they add "flavoring" instead of aging it properly... Low fat cheese is also quite bad if you want to avoid sugar / carbs since adding / leaving in the carbs is pretty much the only way to produce a low fat cheese while keeping the same texture (you can increase the proteins but it will make it very stringy and or hard).
        lawless123 10y ago
        some of the storebought stuff would only be aged weeks.
  - rogerdpack 10y ago
    I get the same effect from eating "something with cheese on top" that I do from eating sugary stuff (makes me want to eat more, makes me feel less full). I always assumed it was the lactose...
  - maneesh 10y ago
    lactose itself IS a sugar. That is what the -ose suffix is.
- kumarski 10y ago
  I think it's very true that in most scenarios it's entirely too easy to eat too much sugar in the foods we consume. I think most people with a nutritional chemistry background would agree, as well, most general medicine practitioners that eating less sugar is a proper direction for much of the population.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    That's not the point you made though. You specifically said that it's hard to overconsume fat and protein. It really isn't. When we look at what obese people eat they aren't just eating too much sugar. They're eating too much of everything, including fat. Cutting out the sugar would help (especially because it's often a pointless addition with a painless substitution eg soda to non-sugar soda), but it would not be enough.
    - Mtinie 10y ago
      > Cutting out the sugar would help (especially because it's often a pointless addition with a painless substitution eg soda to non-sugar soda), but it would not be enough. This may not be as useful a replacement as we've always been lead to believe. There's recent research that suggests that the body is tricked into behaving as if the sugar substitutes are actually sugar[0], especially when considering abdominal obesity. --- [0] "Chronic Low-Calorie Sweetener Use and Risk of Abdominal Obesity among Older Adults: A Cohort Study" - http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0167241#sec020 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....
    - croon 10y ago
      There's a flaw in your logic. True; obese people aren't just eating too much sugar, but also fat (and protein), but the problem is still the sugar. The sugar makes you hungry, making you able to eat more fat (which is highly calorie dense). If you cut the sugar (and other high GI/II carbs), you will eat a lot less of the rest. Sure, the problem in calorie intake is the combination, but eating just fat and protein is fine, while eating only carbs and protein is definitely not.
- croon 10y ago
  Wholly unhelpful meme. What's his daily macro comp? Things are really that easy. Sure there are many potential solutions, but that one definitely works.
- tylershuster 10y ago
  Cheese contains morphine, so that's cheating.

iopq 10y ago

That's not true, some people can eat a lot of cheese. http://www.irkitated.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/eat-block-of-cheese.jpg http://www.irkitated.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/eat-bloc... Things are not as simple as "don't eat sugar"

randomdata 10y ago
To be fair, cheese usually contains sugar.
- iopq 10y ago
  Very little. Even most lactose-intolerant people can eat a little bit of cheese. Aged cheese contains only trace amounts because all of the lactose has been processed by bacteria at that point.
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    Processed cheese like that block of cheese in the meme contains quite a bit of sugar it's added to make it "taste better".
    - iopq 10y ago
      They also don't age it properly, they usually only age it for 18 months or less to realize the return on investment sooner.
      - dogma1138 10y ago
        thats a give for mass produced cheese and other things like wine, they add "flavoring" instead of aging it properly... Low fat cheese is also quite bad if you want to avoid sugar / carbs since adding / leaving in the carbs is pretty much the only way to produce a low fat cheese while keeping the same texture (you can increase the proteins but it will make it very stringy and or hard).
      - lawless123 10y ago
        some of the storebought stuff would only be aged weeks.
- rogerdpack 10y ago
  I get the same effect from eating "something with cheese on top" that I do from eating sugary stuff (makes me want to eat more, makes me feel less full). I always assumed it was the lactose...
- maneesh 10y ago
  lactose itself IS a sugar. That is what the -ose suffix is.
kumarski 10y ago
I think it's very true that in most scenarios it's entirely too easy to eat too much sugar in the foods we consume. I think most people with a nutritional chemistry background would agree, as well, most general medicine practitioners that eating less sugar is a proper direction for much of the population.
- DanBC 10y ago
  That's not the point you made though. You specifically said that it's hard to overconsume fat and protein. It really isn't. When we look at what obese people eat they aren't just eating too much sugar. They're eating too much of everything, including fat. Cutting out the sugar would help (especially because it's often a pointless addition with a painless substitution eg soda to non-sugar soda), but it would not be enough.
  - Mtinie 10y ago
    > Cutting out the sugar would help (especially because it's often a pointless addition with a painless substitution eg soda to non-sugar soda), but it would not be enough. This may not be as useful a replacement as we've always been lead to believe. There's recent research that suggests that the body is tricked into behaving as if the sugar substitutes are actually sugar[0], especially when considering abdominal obesity. --- [0] "Chronic Low-Calorie Sweetener Use and Risk of Abdominal Obesity among Older Adults: A Cohort Study" - http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0167241#sec020 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....
  - croon 10y ago
    There's a flaw in your logic. True; obese people aren't just eating too much sugar, but also fat (and protein), but the problem is still the sugar. The sugar makes you hungry, making you able to eat more fat (which is highly calorie dense). If you cut the sugar (and other high GI/II carbs), you will eat a lot less of the rest. Sure, the problem in calorie intake is the combination, but eating just fat and protein is fine, while eating only carbs and protein is definitely not.
croon 10y ago
Wholly unhelpful meme. What's his daily macro comp? Things are really that easy. Sure there are many potential solutions, but that one definitely works.
tylershuster 10y ago
Cheese contains morphine, so that's cheating.