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I agree with you. But people need to understand that just because someone uses the computer for more than just a browser (I'm not judging those people like my (

I agree with you. But people need to understand that just because someone uses the computer for more than just a browser (I'm not judging those people like my (grand)parents) doesn't mean they have to pay large amounts of money and waste lots of time just to get a computer like it was 5-10 years ago. I want a $200 laptop that I can buy that will let me do with it whatever I want. My salary from freelancing is only about $300/mo so I can't afford a $1000 Dell XPS 13 or something like that, and old Thinkpads are slow and noisy and the batteries don't last long... I was satisfied with a MacBook Air but my father got sick and I had to sell it, and that's why I mainly bought the horrible glorified tablet with a Atom Z3735F CPU. Oh, and I forgot, my mom hates Windows 10 because Flash that she uses to play some games crashes because the display driver it automatically installed for an AMD E1-2100 APU is bad and incompatible. Meanwhile Windows 7 works fine, so that's what I installed for her. My grandparents share a Ubuntu 12.04 which I will upgrade to 14.04 sometime next year, but that's only because their computer can barely run XP and I don't want XP anywhere on my network...

trome 10y ago
Why not get a T420 then? I've been picking them up locally for sub-$100 and they'll blow an E1-2100 or a Z3735F out of the water any day.
- roryisok 10y ago
  He says old ThinkPads are slow and noisy. For reference though, my second hand w510 is an i7/16B RAM, practically silent and plenty fast. It cost me €200. Yeah the battery life is not great, even with a new battery it lasts maybe 2 hours with heavy usage. Hard to beat the power to price ratio though
  - trome 10y ago
    I can understand the impression, but having owned similar chips to what he described, at that price/performance point you are gonna get within 20min of the battery life of either of those chips with a good condition used Thinkpad.
    - roryisok 10y ago
      I guess it depends on which one you buy. I can't get 3 hours out of a new battery for the w510, but the HP Spectre x360 I have for work can go the best part of a day without charging
milankragujevic 10y ago
@trome I don't know, I usually buy new hardware, never thought of that, and I find it bulky, I like to carry a 11.6" in my backpack everywhere and a Lenovo 100s is so light. I don't know really, it's my fault anyways...

trome 10y ago

Why not get a T420 then? I've been picking them up locally for sub-$100 and they'll blow an E1-2100 or a Z3735F out of the water any day.

roryisok 10y ago
He says old ThinkPads are slow and noisy. For reference though, my second hand w510 is an i7/16B RAM, practically silent and plenty fast. It cost me €200. Yeah the battery life is not great, even with a new battery it lasts maybe 2 hours with heavy usage. Hard to beat the power to price ratio though
- trome 10y ago
  I can understand the impression, but having owned similar chips to what he described, at that price/performance point you are gonna get within 20min of the battery life of either of those chips with a good condition used Thinkpad.
  - roryisok 10y ago
    I guess it depends on which one you buy. I can't get 3 hours out of a new battery for the w510, but the HP Spectre x360 I have for work can go the best part of a day without charging

milankragujevic 10y ago

@trome I don't know, I usually buy new hardware, never thought of that, and I find it bulky, I like to carry a 11.6" in my backpack everywhere and a Lenovo 100s is so light. I don't know really, it's my fault anyways...