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I hate this shit. Between adblocking and piracy, people are just going to push publishers into a new form of advertising where they don't even know they are bei

I hate this shit. Between adblocking and piracy, people are just going to push publishers into a new form of advertising where they don't even know they are being advertised to. This is going to mean more "sponsored posts" on sites you love and less authentic content. Its going to mean your favorite movies crammed with product placement ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuZ5qrYX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuZ5qrYX4 ). Its going to mean a distrust of anything you see on the web much greater than exists today. Its going to mean every product review you read about will be 90% about the affiliate payment they get and 10% because of the product itself. Ads suck, I agree. I think the major complaint is malware- But that doesnt explain blocking google adsense, which doesnt allow offsite javascript, or facebook ads, or other 'trusted' ad networks. People just remove those ads because "Fuck ads" - Well, thats fine. But those decisions will obviously not just be candidly ignored- Publishers and content producers will react and find new ways to generate revenue where they lost it.

belorn 10y ago
> push publishers into a new form of advertising Its such a new form that it is already illegal in most places, and common not taxed properly. If publishers are going the illegal route, there are better ways than illegal ads. Many sites with "sponsored posts" have been fined for doing this, and more sites likely will until the risk of doing so is higher than the profits.
Fnoord 10y ago
> I hate this shit. Between adblocking and piracy, people are just going to push publishers into a new form of advertising where they don't even know they are being advertised to. This is going to mean more "sponsored posts" on sites you love and less authentic content. Its going to mean your favorite movies crammed with product placement ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuZ5qrYX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuZ5qrYX4 ). Its going to mean a distrust of anything you see on the web much greater than exists today. Its going to mean every product review you read about will be 90% about the affiliate payment they get and 10% because of the product itself. If this'd happen en masse this allows competition in the market of reviewers, news sites, and social network sites. It also allows for fact checking (which perhaps even gets automated). The model which works is akin to seed fund, or open source development by contract. There'd be say a review in the make of a product X. In order for it to be made, Y USD is required. This is then gathered via crowd funding. Then those who paid get early access, week later its in the public domain. The model isn't even new. LWN uses it, to name an example.
bigbugbag 10y ago
I'm pretty sure advertising has been doing, expanding and seeking the "they don't know they're being advertised to" for quite a while. IIRC it was developed after people being exposed to ads over time learned to recognize them and put up mental filters to filter ads out as a very efficient workaround that block, more recent developments include neuromarketing in the early 2000's. Point is this trend exists because it is the path of evolution of advertising, and I personally doubt adblocking has enough impact yet to push the established course of advertising in a different direction. Publishers are encouraged to find new ways to get revenue preferably outside of advertising so their revenue would not be at risk. You can only put so much sponsored content on your website before you start losing traffic , i.e. ad revenue and need to resort to shadier practices and this cycle continues until the website dies.b
imagist 10y ago
There is already progress being made toward stopping that kind of advertising too.

belorn 10y ago

> push publishers into a new form of advertising Its such a new form that it is already illegal in most places, and common not taxed properly. If publishers are going the illegal route, there are better ways than illegal ads. Many sites with "sponsored posts" have been fined for doing this, and more sites likely will until the risk of doing so is higher than the profits.

Fnoord 10y ago

> I hate this shit. Between adblocking and piracy, people are just going to push publishers into a new form of advertising where they don't even know they are being advertised to. This is going to mean more "sponsored posts" on sites you love and less authentic content. Its going to mean your favorite movies crammed with product placement ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuZ5qrYX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuZ5qrYX4 ). Its going to mean a distrust of anything you see on the web much greater than exists today. Its going to mean every product review you read about will be 90% about the affiliate payment they get and 10% because of the product itself. If this'd happen en masse this allows competition in the market of reviewers, news sites, and social network sites. It also allows for fact checking (which perhaps even gets automated). The model which works is akin to seed fund, or open source development by contract. There'd be say a review in the make of a product X. In order for it to be made, Y USD is required. This is then gathered via crowd funding. Then those who paid get early access, week later its in the public domain. The model isn't even new. LWN uses it, to name an example.

bigbugbag 10y ago

I'm pretty sure advertising has been doing, expanding and seeking the "they don't know they're being advertised to" for quite a while. IIRC it was developed after people being exposed to ads over time learned to recognize them and put up mental filters to filter ads out as a very efficient workaround that block, more recent developments include neuromarketing in the early 2000's. Point is this trend exists because it is the path of evolution of advertising, and I personally doubt adblocking has enough impact yet to push the established course of advertising in a different direction. Publishers are encouraged to find new ways to get revenue preferably outside of advertising so their revenue would not be at risk. You can only put so much sponsored content on your website before you start losing traffic , i.e. ad revenue and need to resort to shadier practices and this cycle continues until the website dies.b

imagist 10y ago

There is already progress being made toward stopping that kind of advertising too.