> MobX is a lot more complex than Redux (core) [...] In Redux you choose to bring in that complexity (reselect, redux-saga, etc) if necessary. I've dug quite a

> MobX is a lot more complex than Redux (core) [...] In Redux you choose to bring in that complexity (reselect, redux-saga, etc) if necessary. I've dug quite a bit into Redux and I don't think that's really true. In particular I don't think you "choose" to bring in that complexity. Redux is inherently complex the moment you add async actions to it, which (in my view) any real Redux app will need. Something as simple as "fetching some data when you click a button" is a surprisingly elaborate process. Similarly, trying to map a large state tree (which any real Redux app will have) to a component tree is not easy. Libraries like reselect and redux-saga (or event redux-thunk) sprung up and became essentially universal because they address the inherent complexity of Redux. I just don't think it makes sense to tease out a small chunk of the code a Redux app needs to function and say "look, this chunk is small!"; it's true but meaningless.