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It seems to me that there are several levels of misunderstanding here. And the most interesting part is when Suzuki asks "So, what is your goal?", and the engi

It seems to me that there are several levels of misunderstanding here. And the most interesting part is when Suzuki asks "So, what is your goal?", and the engineer answers "Well, we would like to build a machine that can draw pictures like humans do.". This is certainly a commendable goal. Then we cut to another sequence, where Miyazaki is drawing, and reflecting: "I feel like we are nearing the end of times. We humans are losing faith in ourselves..." It may or may not be so, but this is an interesting point to discuss. I can certainly understand how it could feel like it, but you'd have to study the motive for wanting to "replace" humans by machines, or just have machine perform like humans. One key misunderstanding in this exchange, and foremost on the part of the journalists reporting it (damn dumb journalists!), is that "This is a presentation of an artificial intelligence model which learned certain movements." Obviously, they didn't teach it to move, they had a certain model of the body, and let the AI loose, trying to learn by itself how to move. This is a classical application of genetic programming. See how some of those creatures look "creepy" too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgG_VSP7f8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgG_VSP7f8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgWQ-gPIvt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgWQ-gPIvt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXTZHHQ7ZiQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXTZHHQ7ZiQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yci5FuI1ovk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yci5FuI1ovk They obtained some creepy result, added a creepy texture and made it into a quick & dirty demo for "animating zombies". Clearly, the people who assisted to this demo didn't understand what it was. And the answer of the artist was the worst. Imagine assisting to Wright brothers' demo, and coming with: "I have a friend who is blind, this doesn't respect the pain and the suffering of those with vision disabilities who will never be able to pilot a plane." What a tool!

jackfrodo 10y ago
>And the answer of the artist was the worst. Imagine assisting to Wright brothers' demo, and coming with: "I have a friend who is blind, this doesn't respect the pain and the suffering of those with vision disabilities who will never be able to pilot a plane." What a tool! This isn't what he was saying at all. He has a friend, with something perhaps like Parkinson's. The zombie animation was clearly evocative of his friend's difficult movements. So to him, it's morally repulsive to create disturbing animation that isn't even drawn by a human that so closely resembles physical disabilities. Whether or not it makes for good horror or art is another matter. He just finds the whole concept disgusting.
anigbrowl 10y ago
And the most interesting part is when Suzuki asks "So, what is your goal?", and the engineer answers "Well, we would like to build a machine that can draw pictures like humans do.". This is certainly a commendable goal. Why? It's not like there is some shortage of human artists. Indeed, the main problem for artists is the difficulty of making a living at it. As a painter I feel quite depressed when I see a friend on Facebook or somesuch upload an attractive new piece of artwork that turns out to be a new Snapchat filter.

jackfrodo 10y ago

>And the answer of the artist was the worst. Imagine assisting to Wright brothers' demo, and coming with: "I have a friend who is blind, this doesn't respect the pain and the suffering of those with vision disabilities who will never be able to pilot a plane." What a tool! This isn't what he was saying at all. He has a friend, with something perhaps like Parkinson's. The zombie animation was clearly evocative of his friend's difficult movements. So to him, it's morally repulsive to create disturbing animation that isn't even drawn by a human that so closely resembles physical disabilities. Whether or not it makes for good horror or art is another matter. He just finds the whole concept disgusting.

anigbrowl 10y ago

And the most interesting part is when Suzuki asks "So, what is your goal?", and the engineer answers "Well, we would like to build a machine that can draw pictures like humans do.". This is certainly a commendable goal. Why? It's not like there is some shortage of human artists. Indeed, the main problem for artists is the difficulty of making a living at it. As a painter I feel quite depressed when I see a friend on Facebook or somesuch upload an attractive new piece of artwork that turns out to be a new Snapchat filter.