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Define free. What's the exact metric for this ranking? It sounds quite a bit more complex and even nebulous than who makes the best butter. I do like this part

by cmurf 10y ago

Define free. What's the exact metric for this ranking? It sounds quite a bit more complex and even nebulous than who makes the best butter. I do like this part, "Mrs. Tony Blair was raised in a working-class family in Liverpool and became a successful barrister. Snobbery: the British disease." There's something weirdly similar here, where a fairly huge chunk of working class voted for the person born with $million in his pocket, and quite literally hate the woman born into a working class family and actually worked for most of her life (and was the bread winner) up until heading to D.C. It's almost a kind of self-hate variety of snobbery.

arethuza 10y ago
That part isn't true though - Blair went to private schools, notably the elite Fettes College as a boarder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair#Education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair#Education The idea that anyone typically "working class" went to Fettes in the late 1960s is rather amusing - it is still rather grand to this day. Edit: The reasons for the widespread hatred of Blair in the UK have nothing to do with his background. Edit2: Apologies - I misread, not used to reading "Mrs Tony Blair"....
- brucelidl 10y ago
  The quote is referring to Cherie Blair, not Tony.
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dijit 10y ago
>Define free. the Human Freedom index[0] is a good start, which is littered at the top with monarchies. (although, there are also some republics like Switzerland/Hong Kong) [0]: https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-index-files/human-freedom-index-2016.pdf https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-i...
gvd 10y ago
There is a cause/causation issue BUT it does so happen to be that these countries have a: high living standard, little inequality, rank high on press freedom, high upward mobility. These monarchies also have very little to no power, so an argument against them, other than the financial burden, usually doesn't hold.
cafard 10y ago
Which woman would that be who was born into a working class family?

by cmurf 10y ago

arethuza 10y ago

That part isn't true though - Blair went to private schools, notably the elite Fettes College as a boarder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair#Education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair#Education The idea that anyone typically "working class" went to Fettes in the late 1960s is rather amusing - it is still rather grand to this day. Edit: The reasons for the widespread hatred of Blair in the UK have nothing to do with his background. Edit2: Apologies - I misread, not used to reading "Mrs Tony Blair"....

brucelidl 10y ago
The quote is referring to Cherie Blair, not Tony.
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dijit 10y ago

>Define free. the Human Freedom index[0] is a good start, which is littered at the top with monarchies. (although, there are also some republics like Switzerland/Hong Kong) [0]: https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-index-files/human-freedom-index-2016.pdf https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/human-freedom-i...

gvd 10y ago

There is a cause/causation issue BUT it does so happen to be that these countries have a: high living standard, little inequality, rank high on press freedom, high upward mobility. These monarchies also have very little to no power, so an argument against them, other than the financial burden, usually doesn't hold.

cafard 10y ago

Which woman would that be who was born into a working class family?