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I was never trying to put anything negative into this statement that both these bright people are Chinese-speaking. I know they both live in US (though it might

by jetter 10y ago

I was never trying to put anything negative into this statement that both these bright people are Chinese-speaking. I know they both live in US (though it might be unfortunate for us that Qiang is currently doing Go programming in Capital One instead of actively developing Yii2). Yii2 and Vue.js are top notch.

caleblloyd 10y ago
I didn't so much read it as a negative, it's just that readers unfamiliar with the projects may think that "Chinese stack" means 1) code/issues are in Chinese and/or 2) the main contributor base is located in China. I've been a long time user of Yii1 and Yii2. Qiang has created 3 PHP Frameworks between 2004-2015: PRADO, Yii1, and Yii2. At one point he was on a >700 day commit streak with work on Yii2. I can't blame him for needing to focus on his own professional career - OSS doesn't always pay the bills and can be very demanding.
- jetter 10y ago
  I agree with you, and I definitely do not blame Qiang on choosing his way. I just miss him as Yii2 contributor and visionaire because that could make a real competitor to Laravel some day, in terms of community, and popularity across US and Europe. Right now Yii2 seems to move in direction of becoming a niche framework for Eastern Europe and parts of China, instead.
  - caleblloyd 10y ago
    I agree, I miss Qiang's visionary leadership on the project also. Given his history of building frameworks I'd say there's a good chance of him doing another. It may not be PHP next time, though. I wonder if Yii2 adoption moving more towards Eastern Europe and China is more a macro trend of PHP in general. I feel like US firms are typically choosing other languages when starting new projects based off postings and job boards I've seen recently. Maybe my view is tainted from reading too much HN though, PHP doesn't get much love here...

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I was never trying to put anything negative into this statement that both these bright people are Chinese-speaking. I know they both live in US (though it might

by jetter 10y ago

caleblloyd 10y ago
I didn't so much read it as a negative, it's just that readers unfamiliar with the projects may think that "Chinese stack" means 1) code/issues are in Chinese and/or 2) the main contributor base is located in China. I've been a long time user of Yii1 and Yii2. Qiang has created 3 PHP Frameworks between 2004-2015: PRADO, Yii1, and Yii2. At one point he was on a >700 day commit streak with work on Yii2. I can't blame him for needing to focus on his own professional career - OSS doesn't always pay the bills and can be very demanding.
- jetter 10y ago
  I agree with you, and I definitely do not blame Qiang on choosing his way. I just miss him as Yii2 contributor and visionaire because that could make a real competitor to Laravel some day, in terms of community, and popularity across US and Europe. Right now Yii2 seems to move in direction of becoming a niche framework for Eastern Europe and parts of China, instead.
  - caleblloyd 10y ago
    I agree, I miss Qiang's visionary leadership on the project also. Given his history of building frameworks I'd say there's a good chance of him doing another. It may not be PHP next time, though. I wonder if Yii2 adoption moving more towards Eastern Europe and China is more a macro trend of PHP in general. I feel like US firms are typically choosing other languages when starting new projects based off postings and job boards I've seen recently. Maybe my view is tainted from reading too much HN though, PHP doesn't get much love here...