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I expected some pushback on that. I probably could have made the same arguments in the past. However, if you ask women, you'll find that thinking about these th
by faitswulff 10y ago
I expected some pushback on that. I probably could have made the same arguments in the past. However, if you ask women, you'll find that thinking about these things is a common thread[0] - likely from the women in your life as well. At the very least, women in my life worry about accepting drinks from men, meeting them for the first time, and saying "no" to men in general. As they say, the "crazy ex-girlfriend" will key your car, but the crazy ex-boyfriend will murder you.
The reason it matters in this particular context is because, in general, women do not think men are safe and dating apps must address this. To specifically counter your arguments about being in a public place with someone, that still opens the doors to: personally invasive touches when no one is looking, invasion of privacy (at this point some contact has occurred), and a physical knowledge of where you are, not to mention being in public hasn't necessarily helped: The murder of Kitty Genovese[1] comes to mind, as does most women having experienced being followed on the streets by men[2] a situation which isn't necessarily helped by public protectors[3] and if you must hear some stories themselves, here are some stories from reddit[4].
So, to answer your question, it is "okay" to operate under such an assumption because, in general, women feel unsafe around men, especially in the context of a dating app. Now, you could make the argument that women are illogical, or you could acknowledge that ~50% of the population might have some reason to feel that way. I personally prefer the latter, but if my opinion doesn't make a difference to you, I would recommend inquiring of women yourself, in some form or another.
[0]: https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-biggest-%E2%80%9CIve-never-thought-of-that-%E2%80%98in-that-way%E2%80%99%E2%80%9D-moment/answer/Tillman-Huett-Lassman?srid=XA4C&share=323975e0 https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-biggest-%E2%80%9CIve-neve...
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
[2]: http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/2010/01/75-percent-of-women-have-been-followed-by-a-stranger/ http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/2010/01/75-percent-of-wo...
[3]: http://www.revelist.com/viral/portland-woman-stalking-officer-viral/3138/my-help-was-immediately-aggressive-and-militant-cutting-me-off-saying-that-no-laws-had-been-broken-and-that-i-was-out-of-line-to-assume-any-negative-intention-she-wrote/3 http://www.revelist.com/viral/portland-woman-stalking-office...
[4]: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/3suj0m/ladies_what_are_some_stories_of_you_being/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/3suj0m/ladies_wha...
- literallycancer 10y agoWomen in the US were 0.27 times as likely to get killed compared to men.[1] By your logic, men should never feel safe around anyone. 1 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1635092 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1635092
- Retra 10y agoWrong data point. Look at assault, harassment, and rape.
- forgetsusername 10y ago>Wrong data point. Look at assault, harassment, and rape. The OP was about murder, so, no.
- Chris2048 10y agoThat Kitty Genovese article comes with a retraction.
- forgetsusername 10y ago>The reason it matters in this particular context is because, in general, women do not think men are safe and dating apps must address this. If you're a woman and worried about that, maybe you shouldn't be randomly meeting men on the internet? >As they say, the "crazy ex-girlfriend" will key your car, but the crazy ex-boyfriend will murder you. Who says? Do you stereotype other people in the same manner? Or just men? >The murder of Kitty Genovese[1] comes to mind You're going to use a brutal murder that occurred 50 years ago as an example of what women face today? >here are some stories from reddit Okay..now go read us some /r/MensRights stories.