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Well, want it or not GNU/ is a big part of Linux distros, at least until a distro with an alternative userland and c library makes it to the top. And even then

by gkya 10y ago

Well, want it or not GNU/ is a big part of Linux distros, at least until a distro with an alternative userland and c library makes it to the top. And even then most of open source has some GNU somewhere in the foundation.

phpnode 10y ago
The insistence that Linux be called GNU/Linux when even Linus calls it Linux is exactly the kind of behaviour that alienates people who would otherwise align with them. There is also no requirement that a Linux distribution includes any GNU software at all, should we refer to them as e.g Busybox/Linux?
- deleted 10y ago
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- jcora 10y ago
  > The insistence that Linux be called GNU/Linux when even Linus calls it Linux is exactly the kind of behaviour that alienates people who would otherwise align with them. I don't agree with this actually, that's why I didn't even mention this. I believe GNU was indispensable to the wider Linux phenomenon. It's a matter of being fair and technically precise.
- gkya 10y ago
  Linux is not called GNU/Linux, but most of the distros need be because the three major components are the GNU userland, the Linux kernel and the distro's utilites and customisations.
- phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
  Is there an OS that uses Linux as the kernel but then no GNU software on top of that? It would be interesting to see, at least.
  - phpnode 10y ago
    Isn't android effectively that?
    - phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
      yep
  - tscs37 10y ago
    I think Android does that.
    - phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
      you too
      - tscs37 10y ago
        me three
  - paulddraper 10y ago
    Android Alpine Linux (of Docker fame) Lots of embedded stuff
    - phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
      yes
paulddraper 10y ago
> until a distro with an alternative userland and c library makes it to the top Not that it invalidates your point, but it has happened. Alpine Linux (e.g. Docker) and Android
vurpo 10y ago
> a distro with an alternative userland and c library makes it to the top Android shot past all the others to become the most popular operating system in the world, in case you didn't notice.

by gkya 10y ago

phpnode 10y ago

The insistence that Linux be called GNU/Linux when even Linus calls it Linux is exactly the kind of behaviour that alienates people who would otherwise align with them. There is also no requirement that a Linux distribution includes any GNU software at all, should we refer to them as e.g Busybox/Linux?

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jcora 10y ago
> The insistence that Linux be called GNU/Linux when even Linus calls it Linux is exactly the kind of behaviour that alienates people who would otherwise align with them. I don't agree with this actually, that's why I didn't even mention this. I believe GNU was indispensable to the wider Linux phenomenon. It's a matter of being fair and technically precise.
gkya 10y ago
Linux is not called GNU/Linux, but most of the distros need be because the three major components are the GNU userland, the Linux kernel and the distro's utilites and customisations.
phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
Is there an OS that uses Linux as the kernel but then no GNU software on top of that? It would be interesting to see, at least.
- phpnode 10y ago
  Isn't android effectively that?
  - phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
    yep
- tscs37 10y ago
  I think Android does that.
  - phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
    you too
    - tscs37 10y ago
      me three
- paulddraper 10y ago
  Android Alpine Linux (of Docker fame) Lots of embedded stuff
  - phjesusthatguy3 10y ago
    yes

paulddraper 10y ago

> until a distro with an alternative userland and c library makes it to the top Not that it invalidates your point, but it has happened. Alpine Linux (e.g. Docker) and Android

vurpo 10y ago

> a distro with an alternative userland and c library makes it to the top Android shot past all the others to become the most popular operating system in the world, in case you didn't notice.