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Another angle to this: Why does Apple get away with something like 2 year support windows for their OS? We now have a bunch of people on OS 10.6.8 who will stop

by rtpg 10y ago

Another angle to this: Why does Apple get away with something like 2 year support windows for their OS? We now have a bunch of people on OS 10.6.8 who will stop getting updates, but even 10.9 will fall out of support before Win7 Though I suppose the best solution would be to get everyone on the upgrade treadmill

mschuster91 10y ago
> Though I suppose the best solution would be to get everyone on the upgrade treadmill No. The best solution would be to require Apple, Google and MS to split up their OSes into individual packages, that can be upgraded at will, and to unlink functionality from optics in all parts of the OS. The reason is simple: most people, especially corp environments, don't upgrade their software because they see on friends' machines (or phones) that the look and feel has changed too much for them / that retraining time for employees is too expensive. A good example is the clusterfuck MS committed with Win8 by replacing the taskbar, the unremovable phone-home/unstoppable auto updater in Win10 or the various "design improvements" / "performance improvements" Apple did on OS X/iOS. Oh, and with Apple there's the high risk of critical bugs or other incompatibilities with their newest OS. Software like the Adobe suite, music/video editor programs, and even office mainstream apps Lotus f..ing Notes and Cisco's programs tend to have boatloads of bugs each major OS X release. With MS, you can at least assume that you can run any old software that doesn't require drivers...
- rtpg 10y ago
  "microkernels" I agree that it should be possible to upgrade the backend without having to upgrade the frontend (so to speak) of the OSes. In my experience, though, even the backend for OS X is massively changing. Networking, in particular, seems to be changing every release.

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Another angle to this: Why does Apple get away with something like 2 year support windows for their OS? We now have a bunch of people on OS 10.6.8 who will stop

by rtpg 10y ago

mschuster91 10y ago
> Though I suppose the best solution would be to get everyone on the upgrade treadmill No. The best solution would be to require Apple, Google and MS to split up their OSes into individual packages, that can be upgraded at will, and to unlink functionality from optics in all parts of the OS. The reason is simple: most people, especially corp environments, don't upgrade their software because they see on friends' machines (or phones) that the look and feel has changed too much for them / that retraining time for employees is too expensive. A good example is the clusterfuck MS committed with Win8 by replacing the taskbar, the unremovable phone-home/unstoppable auto updater in Win10 or the various "design improvements" / "performance improvements" Apple did on OS X/iOS. Oh, and with Apple there's the high risk of critical bugs or other incompatibilities with their newest OS. Software like the Adobe suite, music/video editor programs, and even office mainstream apps Lotus f..ing Notes and Cisco's programs tend to have boatloads of bugs each major OS X release. With MS, you can at least assume that you can run any old software that doesn't require drivers...
- rtpg 10y ago
  "microkernels" I agree that it should be possible to upgrade the backend without having to upgrade the frontend (so to speak) of the OSes. In my experience, though, even the backend for OS X is massively changing. Networking, in particular, seems to be changing every release.